Possibly saved my brother-in-laws life while hunting
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He grabbed a box of 00 buck shot when ...
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December 10th, 2007 11:22 AM
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Possibly saved my brother-in-laws life while hunting
We we out hunting this weekend. I took my AR15, and he took his Rem 1100.
He grabbed a box of 00 buck shot when we left the house in the morning. Little did he know that he grabbed 3" Magnums. I had not noticed until we started to walk to the stands, and saw the box in the vehicle.
I asked him, how is that gun chambered? Is it chambered for 3" Magnums? He said, "I think so, why?"
I said, "let me see that gun." It had 2 3/4 on the barrel. I told him you just put 3" Magnums in this gun. We went back to get some 2 3/4 00 buck from the house.
He was very thankful that I caught his mistake.
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December 10th, 2007 11:22 AM
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December 10th, 2007 11:54 AM
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Wow. I've never made the mistake but I didn't think the 3" magnums would even fit in the chamber. Good eyes.
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December 10th, 2007 12:02 PM
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it was a really old Rem 1100. They did fit. Somehow they did chamber.
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December 10th, 2007 01:08 PM
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They will fit...but the first one would probably fail-to-eject. I did the same thing in an 870 wingmaster when I was a teen. Grabed a handfull of rounds from the ammo box and the last one loaded (first fired)was a 3" mag. Did not damage the firearm - but not something you would want to do on purpose!!!!!
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December 10th, 2007 01:16 PM
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That was our consensus. We figured that the first would fire, and then fail to eject. I was worried that the older Rem 1100 might bulge. Of course there is that possibility of catastrophic failure.
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December 10th, 2007 01:27 PM
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Good save. I'm thinking the good ol' 1100 has a reserve of strength built in to save us from ourselves but one can never be certain.
Years ago a friend wanted to try out the old Winchester Model 97 Black Diamond trap gun I brought to an informal shoot with hand thrown targets. I didn't notice that he loaded one of his 3-inch Magnum shells into the gun. He came over to me complaining that my gun wouldn't eject the fired shell. Well, it wouldn't would it? The fired 3-inch shell was too long and hung in the opened action. When I realized what he'd done he did say the gun kicked very hard. It seemed none the worse for wear though it was made in 1911. I think his thumb caught the bridge of his nose or his cheek. Served him right.
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December 10th, 2007 02:16 PM
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I was duck-hunting with a guy one time. We both were shooting Rem 1100's, and everytime he'd shoot, his gunfire sounded oddly, and at the same time he'd have a FTE. The same thing kept going on a few times with him complaining each time. I asked him to let me look at his gun and he had loaded the 12 gauge with 16 gauge shells (luckily it wasn't 20's
) The 16's were large enough to chamber and fire, but not eject properly, and too big not slip down in the barrel. This guy had been around guns/hunting all of his life.......I couldn't imagine how he let himself do that.
The 1100 was trying to do its part, but the shooter wasn't doing his.
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December 10th, 2007 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I was duck-hunting with a guy one time. We both were shooting Rem 1100's, and everytime he'd shoot, his gunfire sounded oddly, and at the same time he'd have a FTE. The same thing kept going on a few times with him complaining each time. I asked him to let me look at his gun and he had loaded the 12 gauge with 16 gauge shells (luckily it wasn't 20's

) The 16's were large enough to chamber and fire, but not eject properly, and too big not slip down in the barrel. This guy had been around guns/hunting all of his life.......I couldn't imagine how he let himself do that.
The 1100 was
trying to do its part, but the shooter wasn't doing his.
12 ga = RED
16 ga = PURPLE
20 ga = YELLOW
that is the way it use to be, but I haven't been around shot shells in a while.
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December 10th, 2007 06:27 PM
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They usually chamber. The problem starts when the round goes off and the crimped part of the round tries to strighten out. Good catch.
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December 10th, 2007 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by
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12 ga = RED
16 ga = PURPLE
20 ga = YELLOW
that is the way it use to be, but I haven't been around shot shells in a while.
I have some 12ga that are green. They are magnum buckshot but at 2-3/4 length.
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December 10th, 2007 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by
*SA-XD4ME*
12 ga = RED
16 ga = PURPLE
20 ga = YELLOW
that is the way it use to be, but I haven't been around shot shells in a while.
12 ga red, green, black, orange, blue; you have to read.
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December 10th, 2007 09:46 PM
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This exact scenario, both wrong chambering examples as indicated above, was covered in _extreme detail_ (1 hr. of a 12 hr. course) during the hunter education and safety course I've taken toward as well as in a waterfowl course (MA).
If a person makes this basic level firearms handling error then it might be time for them to take a remedial course in as much for their own benefit as well as those around them and their family who upon a 'mistake' will be left to care for and/or bury them.
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December 10th, 2007 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by
nn
12 ga red, green, black, orange, blue; you have to read.
correct. the 3" Magnums were green as well. I forgot to mention this.
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