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    This is a rant. If it doesn't belong here please feel free to move it.


    Ah, nothing like a new year.

    Went down to the local Gun Dealer today to use some of the Xmas money to pick up a new pistol I've had on hold since Dec 07', and found out that because I went home to Canada for Christmas, I'm now inelligable for ANY firearm purchase for 90 Days. WHAT?!?!

    Now a little history lesson on me:


    1. Canadian Citizen with Perminant U.S. Residency Status for 12 yrs.

    2. Bought new Beretta 92 in Nov. 07' under Immigration "green card" number with NO HASSLES what-so-ever, only had to produce proof of 3 months of consecutive residency.

    3. Recently applied & tested for ND. Concealed Permit just before Beretta purchase - recieved permit in late Nov. 07' - 2wks after purchase.

    4. Tried to use CCP for purchase today........& still used INS#


    Doing that I gave the local FFL a dillema, so he called ATF who responded that my CCP was nice to have but was useless for buying firearms, and because I visited the folks over Xmas and I'm not a U.S. citizen....gave me a nice 90 day penalty.
    Apparently my vehicle whould show up on any Federal BK GRND check (immigrant - they check EVERY federal dept that applies) and would "flag" INTERPOL as a licence plate to track, therefore "denying" my request for a firearm purchace.

    Um.........I visit "home" frequently cause I'm only 120 miles away from it and my parents aren't getting any younger. This wasn't an issue in Nov 07' - or even a question asked by my local FFL gun dealer then, or by ATF when all the BK GRND checks were done......why an issue now?

    I've come to the conclusion that this is probably more the FFL cover his collective butt from ATF hassles more-so than my "immigrant status" self. It was HIS recomendation to GET my CCP to "eliminate any potential hassles for future firearms purchases" by me, and then today be backpedals and reaches for the phone cause now he's not sure.

    DOUGH!!!

    I'm getting a vibe here -YEP, FOR GOD'S SAKE DON'T LET THE IMMIGRANT BUY ANY MORE GUNS!

    AFT says - IF HE'S A U.S. CITIZEN W/ NO CRIMINAL PAST - NO PROBLEM -

    Totally unrelated to this incident - I'm glad I'd already decided to finally go for my US citizenship this upcomming summer. As a bonus - all the paper-work hoops I've been jumping thru for the past 14yrs (+2 years to my current 12 for all the pre-marriage registration) for -EVERYTHING - can finally end. Don't get me wrong, no regrets - just alot of headaches. In the grand scheme of things it's been well worth it to get it done, and done LEGALLY

    As an ADDED bonus - my CCP will actually mean something.

    INTERPOL???? Wow I've hit the big time!
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    In Washington State you have to have an alien firearms card to purchase weapons if you are not a citizen. The FBI recently said that the state of Washington cannot use the NICS system to run background checks for the alien firearms cards, meaning washington will not be issuing or renewing the cards for an unspecified amount of time. I can't say that I am all that mad about it...
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    Seems this is more a general firearms versus Concealed Carry issue. so moved it to General Firearms.

    Good luck with becoming a US citizen.
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    Learn something new everyday. There is some serious tracking of folks coming and going today in the U.S.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TravisABQ View Post
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    K... I've calmed down abit.

    Living in a post 9-11 world is a reallity I've got to put into perspective.

    I was really cranky earlier and frankly quite impatient with the whole ordeal. And honestly somewhat embarassed with the whole "DENIED" aspect while standing at the busy counter. Mind you the FFL didn't run any of the numbers thru ATF he was just check'n on what to do. So I don't hold it against him.

    So my new pistol will sit there for another 90 days cause there's nothing I can do about it.

    I admit, sometimes overlook my whole "immigrant status issue" due to the fact in most things I undertake, I'm treated just like the rest of you Yanks.

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    What?!
    so he called ATF who responded that my CCP was nice to have but was useless for buying firearms, and because I visited the folks over Xmas and I'm not a U.S. citizen....gave me a nice 90 day penalty.
    I believe you but that is the part of the reasons for the hoops us No Dak's go through for our CCW's is that we just have to show the CCW to purchase.


    Sorry about the headache
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    Sorry for you northern guys...here in Arizona the Mexicans just steal their guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakotaranger View Post
    What?!


    I believe you but that is the part of the reasons for the hoops us No Dak's go through for our CCW's is that we just have to show the CCW to purchase.


    Sorry about the headache

    No problem - just confusion on my part

    It was my understanding that presenting my CCW to buy my next firearm would "trump" my INS# because of all the Federal BG checks I went thru because I'm a perminant resident to get it.

    No such luck.

    And to clear up any other confusion - The FFL DIDN'T run the paperwork, he just called ATF & inquired and they said there would be a good chance of 90 day penalty for me if he tried to.

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