This is a discussion on A really bad negligent discharge at courthouse within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Not to slam them, but I'll bet any money it was a GLOCK. Light trigger pull and no manual safety. Not to say it would ...
Not to slam them, but I'll bet any money it was a GLOCK. Light trigger pull and no manual safety. Not to say it would be OK to do this with a 1911 or other weapon with a manual safety, it just would have been less likely to result in a ND.
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Another happening to add to the "you-only-thought-you-had-heard/seen-everything" file....
That actually isnt as uncommon as one would think.
I have been hearing of local snafus like this for years.
I'd be willing to bet that just about every armed agency has had at least one much like this.
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Good point,kpw,...Stupidity will always 'prevail' in a situation like that,lol. One thing I don't like about XDs/1911s is that newer owners seem to get into "bad" habits as they are lazier by the 'comforting' extra safeties...
"To blame a gun for a mans decision is to foolishly attribute free will to an inanimate object"- Colion Noir.
IMHO - Without all the facts, pointing a finger at the Deputy's age is fairly narrowed minded.
It is nearly like me saying, the only folks that should carry guns live the in Rocky Mountain States.
It is nearly like me saying, No Peace Officers of any level (Federal, State, County, or City) should be allowed to carry guns. Only allowed to carry whistles like bobbies in the UK. The whistle blowing would bring the armed response to the land of action - an USA Citizen CCW.
Some Peace Officers train all they can, even at their own expense and own time. Some Peace Officers will only show upfor their required qualification, after being reminded more than 3 times.
Most CCW USA Citizens, I know carry, practice, and attend formal training more than most Peace Officers I know.
Job Titles, Patches, Badges, Uniforms, etc does not replace real world training and experience.
Based on what information provided, I would not use age as a cause, I would use poor habits (Deputy probably has done this numerous times - workplace incident), on-the-job safety, firearms training (his Dept's responsibility as his employer - County Sheriff). Should he or any other Deputy's in this Dept be allowed to carry guns ?
If a non-Peace Officer USA Citizen had this happen, would he or she have been charged or what ?
Please don't misunderstand the point of my post. I was not suggesting that the age of the gun toter was a direct causative factor. I was pointing out that if he had been on the job for 35 years as the article stated, he received his basic firearms training a while ago. Firearms training, as a whole, was not as comprehensive then as it is (should be) today. I was speaking (writing) to the concept that if a student isn't exposed to things in training, they are less likely to act a certain way in the real world. How to secure your weapon while on the throne is something that needs to be addressed during the lecture part of firearms training and that it needs to be specific to type of issued equipment and nature of the job.
"The liberty of the individual is no gift of civilization. It was greatest before there was any civilization." Sigmund Freud
How many years did he have to get it right?
And I agree, it probably was a Glock.
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Blame it on Sixto - now that is a viable plan.
The Deputy probably started out with a double action revolver - long pull taking 10-12 # to fire. This AD was probably with a semi-auto, if I "guess" I would guess a Glock with 5.5 # trigger pull (guess due to the AD and widespread use of Glock with Peace Officer Depts).
This action is a direct reflection on the quality and quantity of firearms training (initial and refresher), qualification, and certification by the Peace Officer Dept. Again if I "guess", I concur these types of situations were not lectured on by the instructor, discussed by the class, demonstrated by the instructor, and practiced by the students in the class. Blue / Red Guns, Unloaded Guns, Loaded Guns then Live Fire into Target from sitting in a chair on the range - Just like one was on the throne - pants down.
This training as with all training should be accomplished in whatever "duty" outfit and rig is normally worn and again accomplished in whatever "off-duty" outfit and rig is normally worn.
All is just another topic for "Peace Officer Safety". P.S. All this really applies to "anyone carrying a handgun" - for whatever reason - regardless of their job.
Just plain lucky no one was hurt or killed.