Greatest military gun ever

Greatest military gun ever

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  • M16

    20 10.26%
  • M14

    18 9.23%
  • M1 Garand

    73 37.44%
  • British Lee-Enfield

    1 0.51%
  • German Sturmgewehr 44

    3 1.54%
  • Kalashnikov AK-47

    70 35.90%
  • Karabiner (Mauser) 98k

    3 1.54%
  • M1903 Springfield

    0 0%
  • Steyr AUG

    0 0%
  • Belgian FN FAL

    7 3.59%
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    Greatest military gun ever

    So which of the following firearms would get the award for being the best military gun ever made? All 10 of these have undoubtedly changed the course of history some way or another. Personally I would choose the AK-47 for the simple fact it is the most reliable gun on earth. You can throw it in the water, mud, sand and step on it and it still fires. How about the rest of you, what do you think and why?


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    Are there supposed to be 9 other choices listed here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluelineman View Post
    Are there supposed to be 9 other choices listed here?
    Which other choices? Maybe we can get a mod to add a few more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro2A View Post
    Which other choices? Maybe we can get a mod to add a few more...
    Oh, the poll wasn't up yet when I looked at the thread.

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    OK. For greatest of all time, it's tough. I went with the M1 Garand. I think the AK47 is a very close 2nd. I don't think the M16 changed history like the M1 & AK47 did.

    Actually, now that I think about it a bit more, I think that the M1 changed history the most for the US. The AK47 changed the history for the entire rest of the world.

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    I had to go with the AK. I thought about the M1, but, like bluelineman, the AK had more of an effect on the world. There are many good choices there, but the AK took my vote in the end.
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    You missed the one that is still in use after 117 years. Here's My Vote!

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    The Discovery channel makes a good argument for the AK 47 and I agree. YouTube - TOP 10:Combat Rifles - AK 47 (NO.1)
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    Quote Originally Posted by joleary223 View Post
    The Discovery channel makes a good argument for the AK 47 and I agree. YouTube - TOP 10:Combat Rifles - AK 47 (NO.1)
    Mostly where I got my list from...

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    I went with the AK47 because of its simplisity of how to learn to opperate and its endurance. It is much easier to field and arm a country with an AK and have good firepower.

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    Three or four make for a close run race but - for sheer numbers, uses in so many conflicts etc - relative solid reliability too - the AK has be numero uno.
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    Hm. Good question. With no given criteria, though, I can make a case for several.

    The Stg44 is what the AK47 was based off of, and simply put it would have won WWII's ground battles for German had they issued it (since it was already developed) sooner. Its creation made the M1 obsolete.

    Then again, the AK47 has proven itself to be an icon as much as a battle rifle. It's reliable as anything, but I would not say it's the most reliable gun on that list. The Mauser gets that nod. That, and I can't relate the number of American soldiers who've found dead AK's. They're tough, but they don't exactly eat sand and keep going the way contemporary "wisdom" says they do.

    Speaking of the Mauser, THE father of ALL modern bolt action rifles, and the inspiration for the Enfield and Springfield rifles, could definitely rank highly, but there's a reason it's not used anymore. Great rifle at the time (great rifle now, really), but obsolete as a military rifle.

    The FN FAL, M14, and Steyr AUG have never really changed landscapes. They've pretty much been overshadowed by the M16 in the modern fighting rifle department, each with their own unique problems. The M16 has proven itself despite the stigma, is still a good rifle and is plenty reliable (and, unlike a couple other rifles on that list, didn't have to be modified according to the climate it used in to be reliable).

    It's said that anyone who can't get an M16 gets an Ak47. I voted that way, but truthfully either of those would get my nod for the best fighting rifle, with the Stg44 coming in close behind.


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    None of the above...


    The Browning M2, ventilating the enemy since 1920 and still going....



    The M2 Machine Gun, or Browning .50 Caliber Machine Gun is a heavy machine gun designed towards the end of World War I by John Browning. It was nicknamed Ma Deuce by US troops or simply called "fifty-cal." in reference to its caliber. The design has had many specific designations; the official designation for the current infantry type is Browning Machine Gun, Cal. .50, M2, HB, Flexible. It is effective against infantry, unarmored or lightly-armored vehicles and boats, light fortifications, and low-flying aircraft.

    The Browning .50 machine gun has been used extensively as a vehicle weapon and for aircraft armament by the United States from the 1920s to the present day. It was heavily used during World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, as well as during operations in Iraq in the 1990s and 2000s. It is the primary heavy machine gun of NATO countries, and has been used by many other countries. It is still in use today, with only a few modern improvements. It was very similar in design to the smaller Browning Model 1919 machine gun.

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    I know the poll says rifle, but the M2 just rocks!

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    The AK is no doubt one of the greatest feats of engineering in the history of man, but the M1 Garand is a hard-hitting, rugged Nazi-killing machine!

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    What the M1 lacks in ability to be abused it makes up for in accuracy.
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