Why no Glock .380 in USA?

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    Why no Glock .380 in USA?

    Would someone please be kind enough to tell me why the Glock 25 Cal. 380. is not legal in the US?

    Glock 25 Compact handgun .380 caliber $CALL

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    from what I gathered (my dad really wanted a Glock .380), they don't meet the import requirements of some old import law (total bs imho).
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    Although they are not marketed in North America, except to law enforcement agencies, because they lack sufficient BATF import points, GLOCK makes two pistols for .380 Auto, the GLOCK 25 and GLOCK 28.
    It could be two things...

    they dont meet the criteria set up for imported weapons as mandated by the BATF.

    or, they just didnt think it was feasablie enough to jump through the right hoops to market a gun in a country that likes big calibers...

    I'd bet that it was reason no.2 more than reason no.1.
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    Although they are not marketed in North America, except to law enforcement agencies, because they lack sufficient BATF import points, GLOCK makes two pistols for .380 Auto, the GLOCK 25 and GLOCK 28. These pistols were developed for those countries that forbid the civilian possession of a handgun chambered in a common military caliber.

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    I THINK THEY MAKE A GOOD ONE/BUT ALOT OF LEO CANT CARRY SMALLER THAN 9mm BUG

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    The issue is with BATF import criteria. Larger calibers, longer barrels, target sights, target triggers, etc all help to make a gun more importable.

    I have heard all of the austrian produced glocks came to the US with target sights, and many were removed at the distributor - sights sent back to austria for "reuse".

    Also, I believe the midsize and compacy glocks have target triggers (vertical serrations) but those aren't present on the fullsize glocks.

    For the .380, the small caliber realy penalizes it for import. you'd need like a 12" barrel and target sights to get it approved....


    I believe glock makes the 17 & 19 in 9mmx21 for sales in europe for countries that dont allow military chambered handguns

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    According to the Glock catalog, the Model 25 is "Not available for the U.S. market" and the Model 28 is "Law Enforcement Agency only in U.S. market".


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    Here's some more info on the "point" system. The Glock 26 just makes it with 75 points.



    What is the BATF points system and how does it affect Glocks?
    Many of the Glock's parts and sometimes the whole gun are dictated or limited by the BATF's system of "import points". To qualify for import a pistol must score 75 points based on the following system:

    Characteristic Points
    Length: for each 1/4" over 6" 1
    Forged steel frame 15
    Forged HTS alloy frame 20
    Unloaded weight w/mag (per oz.) 1
    .22 short and .25 auto 0
    .22 LR and 7.65mm to .380 auto 3
    9mm parabellum and over 10
    Locked breech mechanism 5
    Loaded chamber indicator 5
    Grip safety 3
    Magazine safety 5
    Firing pin block or lock 10
    External hammer 2
    Double action 10
    Drift adjustable target sight 5
    Click adjustable target sight 10
    Target grips 5
    Target trigger 2

    For example, here is how the G17 scores:
    Length (7.28") 5
    Weight (24.79oz) 25
    Caliber (9mm) 10
    Locked breech 5
    Firing pin block 10
    Double action 10
    Target sight 10
    Target grips 5
    Total 80

    Here is how the Glock 26 scores:
    Length (6.29") 1
    Weight (21.87oz) 22
    Caliber (9mm) 10
    Locked breech 5
    Firing pin block 10
    Double action 10
    Target sight 10
    Target grips 5
    Target trigger 2
    Total 75

    Changes and features made to Glocks to comply with the BATF rules:
    - all models are imported with a cheap click-adjustable rear sight that is replaced at the factory with the stock sight
    - target (grooved) trigger added to compacts & subcompacts
    - target grips added to all models (required for the subcompacts)
    - due to their caliber, .380 autos (G25 & G28) do not score enough points to be imported

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    Now that there is some anti-gun BS aimed at the "Saturday Night Special"segment of antigunners.

    Totally irrelvalent to anything else. Its all BS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    Now that there is some anti-gun BS aimed at the "Saturday Night Special"segment of antigunners.

    Totally irrelvalent to anything else. Its all BS.
    B_B_But it's for our own good...

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    I tend to believe its more of a case of "Why bother". We can purchase the same gun in 9mm, 40 or 357sig.... so why bother with the 380.
    I think Glock doesnt see the point in cutting through the red tape to offer a gun that probably wont sell well anyway.
    "Just blame Sixto"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    I tend to believe its more of a case of "Why bother". We can purchase the same gun in 9mm, 40 or 357sig.... so why bother with the 380.
    I think Glock doesnt see the point in cutting through the red tape to offer a gun that probably wont sell well anyway.
    Bingo! Tell him what he's won Johnny!

    In all seriousness, I couldn't agree more.

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