What Makes a 1911 Different Than Any Other Gun?
This is a discussion on What Makes a 1911 Different Than Any Other Gun? within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; I could be missing something obvious here but...
I realize that guns have various calibers. I have a few questions:
1) Why is .40 called ...
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March 31st, 2008 01:04 PM
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What Makes a 1911 Different Than Any Other Gun?
I could be missing something obvious here but...
I realize that guns have various calibers. I have a few questions:
1) Why is .40 called .40 S&W? Did Smith & Wesson "invent" this caliber?
2) Why does ACP follow .45 so often?
3) 1911 is a reference to the Colt 1911 pistol, right? Was this "frame" originally made in 1911? If yes, are all the 1911s made today just updated versions of the Colt 1911?
4) When you say you have a 1911, does it use a particular size/caliber bullet? Or is there a 9mm 1911?
Thanks!
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March 31st, 2008 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by
McPatrickClan
I could be missing something obvious here but...
I realize that guns have various calibers. I have a few questions:
1) Why is .40 called .40 S&W? Did Smith & Wesson "invent" this caliber?
Yes they did.
2) Why does ACP follow .45 so often?
ACP stands for Automatic Colt Pistol
3) 1911 is a reference to the Colt 1911 pistol, right? Was this "frame" originally made in 1911? If yes, are all the 1911s made today just updated versions of the Colt 1911?
See link 1911
4) When you say you have a 1911, does it use a particular size/caliber bullet? Or is there a 9mm 1911?
Thanks!
Yes it comes in 9mm .38 Super, 10mm and many others as well.
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March 31st, 2008 01:16 PM
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What makes it different? The PR of the rabid, vicious, die-hard, fanatical cultists in the Church of JMB!
A man fires a rifle for many years, and he goes to war. And afterward he turns the rifle in at the armory, and he believes he's finished with the rifle. But no matter what else he might do with his hands - love a woman, build a house, change his son's diaper - his hands remember the rifle.

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March 31st, 2008 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by
OPFOR
What makes it different? The
PR of the rabid, vicious, die-hard, fanatical cultists in the Church of JMB!

There is no god but Mars, and Browning is his prophet . . .
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March 31st, 2008 01:30 PM
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I think its natural pointability makes it different, sort of like the Lugers.
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March 31st, 2008 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by
McPatrickClan
2) Why does ACP follow .45 so often?
There's also .45 LC, .45 GAP, and .45 HP... All of which are different than .45 ACP and won't work in a Colt 1911.
The ACP predates the 1911... it was introduced with the Colt 1905.
4) When you say you have a 1911, does it use a particular size/caliber bullet? Or is there a 9mm 1911?
This is a religious question. There are models that are functionally identical, that are 9mm. Some people think that qualifies. Other folks will tell you (perhaps with a wink) that 1911's shoot .45. Colt manufactured them in .38 super and .22LR (Colt ACE) as well.
These guns were really a marvel of engineering, and perhaps JMB's cult following is well deserved. To think that a guy could dream this up without the aid of computers and cad software just blows my mind sometimes.
The facts are indisputable. There is more data supporting the benefits of Conceal Carry than there is supporting global warming. If you choose ignorance, in light of all the evidence, in order to bolster your irrational fear of guns, you are a greater threat to society than any gun owner.
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March 31st, 2008 02:35 PM
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Do yourself and your money a favor:
Never, ever pick up and hold/fondle a well made, tuned 1911.
and
Never, ever fire a well made, tuned 1911.
Go Glock - until you can afford H&K
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March 31st, 2008 03:03 PM
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Yes they did.
ACP stand for Automatic Colt Pistol
See link
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Yes it comes in 9mm .38 Super, 10mm and many others as well.
HEH! When it comes in 9mm, .38 Super, 10mm or anything else not .45acp...IT ISNT a 1911! Ok so maybe I'm in that cult faction opfor mentioned
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March 31st, 2008 03:46 PM
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March 31st, 2008 03:55 PM
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All of your M1911 questions are answered here:
The Sight's M1911 .45 ACP Page
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And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Just roll to your rifle and blow out your brains,
And go to your God like a soldier.
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March 31st, 2008 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Thanks, Captain...
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March 31st, 2008 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by
BlackPR
There's also .45 LC, .45 GAP, and .45 HP... All of which are different than .45 ACP and won't work in a Colt 1911.
What does .45 HP stand for?
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March 31st, 2008 09:57 PM
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What does .45 HP stand for?
Hirtenberger Patronen. It's not manufactured anymore, but was made as a result of a ban on ownership of .45 ACP in Italy. It's identical to the .45 ACP, but just a millimeter shorter.
I think the idea was that it might work in some 1911's. Not sure about that... but I know I wouldn't feed it through mine, even though we're just talking a millimeter. Maybe some of the other 1911 history buffs can chime in on this one.
The facts are indisputable. There is more data supporting the benefits of Conceal Carry than there is supporting global warming. If you choose ignorance, in light of all the evidence, in order to bolster your irrational fear of guns, you are a greater threat to society than any gun owner.
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