What shot Lee Harvey Oswald?

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    What shot Lee Harvey Oswald?

    I'm pretty sure it was a snubbie, anybody know what caliber?

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    I think it was a 38 chiefs special,the gun was up for auction a few weeks ago IIRC,asking price was pretty steep
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    My recollection from readings is it was a .38 colt cobra
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    Yes, Jack Ruby used a Colt Cobra,.38 Special,two inch barrel,with a hammer shroud.
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    12:00 AM CST on Wednesday, March 5, 2008
    By DAVID FLICK / The Dallas Morning News
    dflick@dallasnews.com

    Jack Ruby's .38-caliber Colt Cobra

    Jack Ruby's .38-caliber Colt Cobra would be unremarkable except for two things – it made history and it has had astonishing resale value.

    The current owner of the Ruby gun paid $220,000 for it at an auction in 1991. It's up for auction again this month in Las Vegas. The gun purchased in 1960 for $62.50 by the Dallas nightclub owner, who used it three years later to kill accused presidential assassin Lee Harvey Oswald, will be auctioned in Las Vegas this month.

    Its owner, Florida real estate developer Anthony Pugliese III, declined to divulge his minimum price, other than to say it is more than $1 million.

    Mr. Pugliese, who bought the gun for $220,000 in 1991, is happy to talk about almost everything else.

    "It's a matter of passion," he said, explaining why he is selling the weapon. "If I do something, it's a matter of passion, and now I have a new passion."

    The new passion is to build a 64-square-mile bio-sustainable city in central Florida. His old passion was assembling an amazing grouping of 900 historical and celebrity collectibles.

    Besides the Ruby gun, the 900 items include the hat worn by the Wicked Witch of the West in the Wizard of Oz; the white jacket worn by John Lennon on the cover of Abbey Road; and an epoxy statue that was the center of intrigue in the movie The Maltese Falcon.

    About 150 items in the Pugliese Pop Culture Collection, which will go on the auction block March 15-16 at the Palms Casino Resort in Las Vegas, are associated with President John F. Kennedy or his assassination in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963.

    Arlan Ettinger, president of Guernsey's auction house, which is handling the sale, said he is unsure how much the gun will sell for. Much depends on the buzz of the moment, he said.

    "A few years ago, we sold Mark McGwire's [70th home run] baseball for $3 million," he said. "Now people would ask, 'Who's Mark McGwire?' "

    Others items in Mr. Pugliese's collection range from a wooden humidor from Kennedy's desk to the toe tag attached to Oswald's body after his murder by Ruby.

    But it is the gun that has brought Mr. Pugliese the most attention, much of it unwanted.

    News stories about the 1991 auction in New York said it was purchased by a "mystery buyer" represented by an employee named Fred Roman.

    In fact, Mr. Pugliese was both the buyer and "Fred Roman."

    "I hadn't planned to buy the gun at the auction," he recalled.

    His earlier attempts to purchase the gun from the Ruby family had failed, he said, and he assumed that auction bidding would drive the price beyond what he wanted to pay.


    When he arrived at the auction house the day after Christmas 1991, however, he saw fewer potential buyers than he anticipated. One major bidder dropped out early.

    Seeing his chance, Mr. Pugliese jumped in and pegged the winning bid at $200,000 (various fees brought the final cost up an additional $20,000). He was immediately swarmed by the media.

    "I was surrounded by all these reporters, and I was covering my face with a bid card," he recalled this week."

    He told the reporters that he represented a buyer whom he couldn't identify. When they asked him to identify himself, "I just made up the first name I could think of."

    With the help of a hotel guard, he escaped the media scrum. He later called the auction house owner to explain why he disappeared without claiming the gun. After the exchange of money, he said, the auction house owner gave him the gun a few days later at a restaurant in Little Italy, the weapon wrapped in a cloth Crown Royal bag.

    Mr. Pugliese was finally outed a few months later when U.S. Capitol police seized the gun from a friend who wanted to show it to House Speaker Tom Foley.

    The friend had taken the gun for an appearance on the Larry King Live show and ended up spending the night in jail until the matter was straightened out.

    The friend was released, but the gun wasn't.

    And Mr. Pugliese was told that under the District of Columbia's strict gun laws, the weapon – which Mr. Pugliese had failed to insure – would be melted into scrap.

    He got the gun back, but it cost him thousands of dollars in legal fees and the loss of his anonymity.

    He was criticized several months later when stories surfaced that he planned to make money by firing bullets with the gun and selling them.

    Mr. Pugliese said he followed through with the plan – eventually firing hundreds of bullets– but most were either given to friends or donated to charities that sold or auctioned them to raise money.

    "You shoot a bullet from the gun, and the scratch marks on it are unique, just like a fingerprint," he said. "It's a great gift."

    He packages the bullets with a certificate of authenticity and a plaque that includes a photo of the gun and the Pulitzer Prize-winning photo of Ruby shooting Oswald.

    Among recent recipients, he said, was former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, a guest at Mr. Pugliese's house in Delray Beach, Fla.

    On Singleton Boulevard in West Dallas, Ray's Hardware and Sporting Goods is still run by the family of Lawrence Brantley, who sold the gun to Ruby in January 1960.

    "We've still got the sale recorded in our log," said Reid Durbin, Mr. Brantley's grandson.

    His grandfather, who died in 1996, remembered the sale, telling family members that the nightclub owner was a frequent customer and arrived in the shop that day accompanied by a Dallas police officer.

    Mr. Durbin joked that the resale price was just the result of inflation.

    "If it was 18 years since they sold it for $200,000," he said, "that's about what you'd expect with the economy."
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    I agree that it was a .38 colt cbra, and I'm almost positive the bullet was a 158 gr. lead RN.

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