So let's give some thought to what kind of test - better check this out post #17

So let's give some thought to what kind of test - better check this out post #17

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    So let's give some thought to what kind of test - better check this out post #17

    Due to the rare opportunity and expense involved, I want us to be careful about what we really want to gain from the testing. Hence, your input will be invaluable.

    From post #33 in the thread, "I'm gonna do a 2000 round no-clean/no-lube test - help me pick a gun... ":
    Quote Originally Posted by Tangle
    Since I couldn't go to the 1000 round test, I want to run my own test and I thought I'd use a gun that wasn't used in their test. I don't know that I'll follow the 1000 round test rules exactly, but I should be close.

    One has to wonder about the purpose of such testing, although I like it for some odd reason, but it does not reflect a real world situation. E.g. we would never shoot 1000 rounds at a time in a real world setting. We would never shoot 1000 rounds through a gun without lubing and/or cleaning it. I have shot 1800 rounds through my M&P without cleaning it and had zero mals of any kind, BUT, I only shot about 200 rounds at a time and lubed it before each session.

    But I think such tests does give us some insight as to where the limits are and what happens as a gun gets dirty. In the 1000 round test, as I understand it, the guns were fired as fast as reasonable and a lot of heat was generated. While that is a factor, in the real world, we wouldn't have enough ammo on us, nor the need to shoot anywhere near 1000 rounds.

    So my purpose is to see what happens as a gun gets dirty from shooting many rounds through it, but I anticipate deliberately trying to avoid a lot of heat build up. I haven't decided about cleaning the bore with a bore snake. I'd prefer not to do that, but I'd also prefer not do any damage to my barrel either, so that's kind of a trade off.

    I have decided on the ammo though 124 gn NATO FMJ. And since I've decided not to go to a training school this summer, I'm considering diverting the cost of going to a school to ammo. That means I can buy more ammo than I had originally planned to. I could buy 4000 rounds of NATO ammo.

    My first thought was to see if a gun shooting range ammo is more reliable with a lower power recoil spring over the stock spring. But I am comfortable that the NATO ammo is a good choice because I've shot a lot of it and it should eliminate the 'range' ammo effect working against stock recoil springs designed for a bit heavier loads.

    So the bottom line is, instead of shooting 1000 rounds of range ammo with a stock recoil spring and another 1000 with a lower power recoil spring, we may want to consider other options.
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    I am curious as to not only how each pistol holds up but also how often do we need to lubricate our pistols as well. I think you have a very important test going on there. I chose option #4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crzy4guns View Post
    I am curious as to not only how each pistol holds up but also how often do we need to lubricate our pistols as well. I think you have a very important test going on there. I chose option #4.
    Option #4 is "other", what other would you like to see?

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    Ahhhh, you mean option #4 stated in the my Quote, right? That's option #2 above. That was confusing, I deleted the options in the quote for clarity sake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangle View Post
    Option #4 is "other", what other would you like to see?
    I think he was referring to option four from the quote in your OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadeye72 View Post
    I think he was referring to option four from the quote in your OP.
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    OK, who checked "other" and didn't specify what 'other'???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangle View Post
    OK, who checked "other" and didn't specify what 'other'???
    Wasn't me. I marked option 2.
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    I voted 2k rounds through 2 guns.

    Anything you can do to keep conditions for each gun identical would be worth it in my opinion, even if it's a bit of a PITA.

    (i.e. clean them both really well with the same cleaner... lube with the same lube... shoot at the same pace... etc.)
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    I vote 2000rds through 2 guns
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    Quote Originally Posted by matiki View Post
    ...Anything you can do to keep conditions for each gun identical would be worth it in my opinion, even if it's a bit of a PITA.

    (i.e. clean them both really well with the same cleaner... lube with the same lube... shoot at the same pace... etc.)
    I hear ya - thanks!

    I plan to clean it/them really good and lube them with WeaponShield. QKShooter has experience with this stuff and I'm gonna pick his brain for recommendations about how to apply it.
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    My mistake, I misread your thread, I would like to see the 2000 round test, or even the 1000 round one if that is more popular. Sorry about the confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crzy4guns View Post
    My mistake, I misread your thread, I would like to see the 2000 round test, or even the 1000 round one if that is more popular. Sorry about the confusion.
    No problem at all, I just wanted to be sure that somebody hadn't checked other and forgot or didn't have time to describe other.
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    1000 through 4 guns, but I want you go get your XD fixed by then.
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    4 guns...1000 rounds thru each...
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