View Poll Results: Would you have been willing to pay for a hands on, instructional first cleaning?
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May 15th, 2008 09:40 AM
It would be nice if gun manufacturers would include a video on how to strip, clean, maintain and put it back together your gun with it. Optionally they can posti it on line. The basics are the same for each gun but it varies so that what applies for one may not for another. There are little tricks for each gun that the manual leaves out and causes problems expecially on new guns.
For instance on my Taurus PT-111:
1. Unload the #@$%^# thing.
2. Lock the slide back
3. Rotate the takedown pin
4. Release the slide and let it move forward a hair then lock it back and the pin will pop out to a point it can easily be removed.
5. Remove the takedown pin
6. Release the slide, pulle the trigger and remove the slide.
I post this as the manual doesn't tell you about step 4. and as you break it in this step won't really be needed. Little things like this are waht drive people crazy. I saw a post by one person that was having all kinds of trouble with his because he didn't know to pull the trigger before removing the slide.
On some guns pulling the trigger will cause problems. Then there is the matter of over of under lubricating and whether to use grease or oil.
A class would be nice but the manufacturers need to do a better job with their instructions instead of including so much fine print like do not dry-fire Kel-Tec's.
Holdcard beat me by a few seconds.
May 15th, 2008 11:02 AM
Way cool! Keep it up and you'll have enough "left over" parts to build another gun!
Originally Posted by rmarcustrucker
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May 15th, 2008 03:23 PM
Originally Posted by rmarcustrucker
Anyone with a P3AT knows that part 115 is not needed otherwise KT would have made some mention of it in the manual. I would venture to say that 1/4 of all P3AT's in existence don't have that part in them any more.
Originally Posted by gwhall57
May 15th, 2008 05:06 PM
May 15th, 2008 05:49 PM
No for me. I've always been a "RTFM" kind of guy. Been taking stuff apart and putting it back together since I was a kid. It drove my folks nuts, but I make a pretty decent living doing it now.
I do field service on tons of different systems. The "training" we get is a joke, and we work alone. If you can't figure it out on your own, you (and the customer) are SOL.
May 15th, 2008 08:52 PM
Part 115 is the extractor that falls out and is easily lost. You will either need to see a exploded drawing or an actual gun to see it because it is a very small part that just fits into a slot with nothing to keep it in. No one seems to know the real purpose of it but usually it is said to assist with ejecting the shell when the magazine is empty.
Originally Posted by bmcgilvray
With it missing it usually causes no problems except sometimes the last round of a magazine will not be ejected properly. Or at least is my understanding.
May 15th, 2008 11:07 PM
Guns need cleaning?
Originally Posted by Cupcake
Sure, I would pay $20 for a half-hour of someone's time to clean my gun in front of me and then let me do it. I have a bad problem with not finishing my jobs, or thinking I'm done when I'm not. This would help.
May 16th, 2008 01:56 AM
It broke my heart when I put an "idiot mark" on my SS Kimber Ultra Carry II the first time I cleaned it. I had read the manual, online instructions, nearly memorized the exploded 1911 diagram and still managed to scar the finish. I remember thinking at the time that I wish I had someone to walk me through the process. I'm only glad it didn't happen with Kobra Carry!
May 16th, 2008 02:04 AM
Yeah, thanks. I know the part. Another fellow and I tried our pistols without it and they mostly worked. Seems that they were slightly less reliable. Perhaps it was on that last shot that they failed to extract.
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