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    45 acp and black bear

    Man survives struggle with black bear in Oregon

    After reading the above it makes one stop and think about what to carry in the woods.


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    It'd take alot to down a VERY mad, WOUNDED bear.

    Got me thinking about trail carry too.
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    260 pounds is not a large bear by west coast standards. I consider my .45 only useful for putting myself out of my misery if attacked by a larger bear. I carry a Remington 12 ga. cop gun loaded with slugs for bear protection while hiking in my local outback.

    Found these bear tracks last December. I figure he weighs in the neighborhood of 800 pounds.
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    A buddy and I are considering a fishing trip in AK in the next couple of years. My choices are going to be:

    1895M Guide Gun (.450 Marlin)--loaded HOT with heaviest hardcast I can get.
    Ruger Alaskan in .454--same as above; providing, of course, I can control it.

    I considered bringing my .500; but, the 8 3/8" barrel will NOT clear a holster quickly if needs be, and also...it's HEAVY!

    --Edit--
    May I add, now, after reading the article...if ever there was an argument against magazine safties, this would be it...

    Then he tucked the gun beneath the bear's chin. But it quit. Wyckoff, left-handed, said he had accidentally released the ammunition clip.
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    When I am grouse hunting up notrh I carry a S&W .44 Mag. loaded with 310 grain. Garrette super-hard-cast hammerhead ammo as it is also black bear country.
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    "His .45 is covered with teeth marks but still works"

    Now that would be some scratches that I would never polish out.

    BTW I saw some pictures a good while back of a guy that had been killed by a bear up in Alaska, they were very sobering and would cause you to carry the largest gun that you could.
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    wow not sure an AT-4 would have fixed that problem.

    If I was going to Alaska I think I would take a pistol grip pump 12 gauge.
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    16.25 inch stainless Marlin in 45-70 loaded with Garrets...

    And another one for your buddy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FHBrumb View Post
    16.25 inch stainless Marlin in 45-70 loaded with Garrets...

    And another one for your buddy...
    I don't know maybe a nice M1A scout.....
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    I saw an article where they found a dead fisherman his .357 magnum was nearby he had fired all 6 shots before the bear got him,I think i'd want a 12 gauge with collapsible stock and slugs with a 44 magnum for backup minimum.I guess an AR10 with collapsible stock and 20 round mag would stop a bear too,but i wouldn't trust a 45acp
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    I figure I would also carry a .44 mag and oh yeah, my best friends too. That way if the .44 doesn't do the job, all I need to do is outrun one of the two other guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FHBrumb View Post
    16.25 inch stainless Marlin in 45-70 loaded with Garrets...

    And another one for your buddy...

    45-70 will do the trick, handloaded you can a 400 grain bullet to 2000fps..
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    I don't know, and I don't intend to try, but if I were to spend much time in bear country I'd seriously look into the .460 Rowland kit. I don't have a handy link, but do a search and it's easy to find. I'd still rather have a 12-gauge or my SKS/AK/an RPG/etc., but the .460 looks like a good handgun if that's what you have. Since it's based on a 1911 system, it would be a no-brainer reaction for many of us in a dire emergency.

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    The .825 magnum looks like it would help you develope a flinch and a twitch and new cuss words
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    My cousin spends a lot of time in AK, he carries a 12 ga with slugs for bears. He said a lot of guys carry 44 mags up there while fishing and hunting.

    About a year ago I was at the range and a guy and his son were test firing a .50 S&W. I got to talking with them and found out that they are outdoor photographers. They travel to Alaska and one carries a Marlin Guide gun in 45/70 and the other carries the .50, just in case.
    When you've got 'em by the balls, their hearts & minds will follow. Semper Fi.

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