MY wife, a gun, and the TSA.....
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June 18th, 2008 02:00 PM
MY wife, a gun, and the TSA.....
This morning I had to drop off the wife and kids at the airport for a one month stay with her parents. Her Mom is battling cancer but it's not going well. I'm really gonna miss those boys. And my wife too...
Now to let you know, wife gets rattled when things don't go her way. She is already up WAY before the rooster crows and about to fly with a toddler and an eight year old that, love notwithstanding, can really pluck your nerves. We are at the ticket counter and the agent asks us to prove our 19 month old is under 2 years old (under 2 sits on Mom's lap and gets a free ride). Wife had just recently taken this documentation out of her wallet, as she had never been asked for it before. Time is ticking on the plane's departure. We are faced with buying an extra ticket or not going. Finally, a solution. The ticket agent talks to our health insurance provider and verifies age. So now we're off to the screener doublestep with ALL the luggage. Ticket agent would not process any of the bags.
Screener opens the gun case and swabs the weapon, but never handles it. It is in battery with empty magazine separated. Why someone would do an explosives swab on a weapon escapes me, but whatever. Good thing it was clean, I guess. Heaven help us if the machine gave a positive!
The screener hands my wife the weapon case so she can padlock it. She opens the case and proceeds to pull back on the slide to show it is unloaded. She was NOT asked to do this. I am the only peson who is reasonably sure that it is not loaded, as I was the one to unload and case it. When she hurriedly racked the slide, it looked a whole lot like she was charging the weapon, and the muzzle swept the screener. YIKES! I saw it coming and tried to warn her, but too late. The screener nervously asked her what she was doing, and pointed out to her that she had pointed a weapon at him, but it wasn't loaded (I guess the swab told him that???) She denied it, saying it was pointed at the floor. It wasn't, and I didn't score any points with her by pointing that out. I was surprised that the screener didn't grab the weapon, duck, lunge, do something, since he seemed to be the "gun guy" that the other screener deferred to initially.
And if that guy happens to be reading this, I AM SORRY! Wife is normally overcautious and has never done anything like this before.
So since we've heard lots of stories about gun incidents not going well in airports, I am thankful he didn't decide to call the cops on her.
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June 18th, 2008 02:47 PM
Sounds like you were lucky on a couple of things.
Would it not have been better to have the thing out of battery in the first place; with a lock in place?
Also, with some guns it is fairly easy to disassemble and remove the slide altogether. If you won't need it immediately on arrival at a destination (and maybe even if you do), would it not be wiser to put the gun in the required TSA hard sided case but have it partially disassembled? That would avoid any such accidents or misunderstanding like what you mentioned.
If you feel you will need it shortly after arrival at your destination, a quick trip to the restroom with the locked box, and a little privacy in the restroom stall should give ample opportunity to stealthily reassemble-- no wide stance of course.
June 18th, 2008 03:07 PM
hmmm...glad to hear things turned out ok....there is another thread discusssing sweeping right now...
Some of the TSA can be uptight, glad the trip 'got off the ground'.
--people ask why I carry, and I show them this picture. I think it says it all.--
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June 18th, 2008 03:15 PM
Sometimes people sweep people with a weapon and don't even realise it even when you point it out they think they didn't do it.glad things worked out okay
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June 18th, 2008 05:28 PM
TSA swabbing a weapon is pretty stupid. I was TDY with my M4 and M9 a couple of months ago...the bag with the M9 went through without a problem. Yet the case with the M4 had to go through screening (x-ray) twice...then I was asked to give them the key to the case. They (TSA) opened the case and swabbed the weapon.
When asked why they were swabbing the weapon, they told me it was to detect residue () Then I reminded them it was a military rifle--it's expected to have residue.
When the test came back positive, I asked them "now what?"
"Have a nice day"
So why do they swab weapons again??
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June 18th, 2008 06:14 PM
AH, the actions, policies, and procedures of the TSA.............why do we even try to understand? WAIT, I KNOW, I KNOW, THEY SAW IT ON CSI:LAS VEGAS!!!!
EVIL PREVAILS WHEN GOOD MEN FAIL TO ACT.
June 18th, 2008 11:55 PM
Agreed. When I have to fly, which I hate by the way, I always disassemble the Glock just to avoid any problems. It does make the whole process a lot easier.
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