Oh, oh! I've got a malfunction.

Oh, oh! I've got a malfunction.

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    Oh, oh! I've got a malfunction.

    My S&W Performance Center 945 is sick.

    If I cock the weapon, engage the thumb safety, depress the trigger, it will not fire. OK. But then, finger off the trigger, palm off the grip safety, when I release the thumb safety, it fires.

    I know I need a gunsmith, but does anyone have any idea what's wrong, and what THIS is going to cost. Maybe I should just sell it.
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    I know noting about your particular gun, but would only advise not selling it in the condition that it is, unless to a gunsmith or other facility with the understanding that it is broken and will be fixed or destoyed.

    That condition sounds like it could get someone injured or killed easily.
    Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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    You guys keep making my case for a $500 revolver.

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    I don't know if you're saying your gun was working normally and then developed a malfunction or if you've just never shot it before. So I have a wild guess, having never owned, shot, or handled a 945.

    I think possibly the gun has a mag safety so try putting an empty mag in and racking the slide, and then pulling the trigger. The safety is probably a de-cocker safety so while the hammer is falling, it isn't actually 'firing'. If this turns out to be the case, then it is not broken... read the manual.

    Otherwise, your gun seems to be all inside out and upside down.

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    I don't know much about the 945 but since it appears to be S&W's version of the 1911 I would say it sounds like a weak sear spring. I had a weak sear spring in my Colt Gov't Model Series 70 MK IV. It cost me about $10 for the spring shipping included. I was easy the replace. Hope it is the same for you. Check with American Gunsmithing Institute for a DVD on the 945. If they have it, the DVD should be worth the cost. My DVD on Colt 1911 paid for itself when I replaced that spring.

    I re-read your post. Since your finger is off the trigger when it fires it doesn't sound like the sear spring. It sounds like the trigger doesn't reset when you take your finger off it while the thumb safety is engaged. I have no idea what the cost might be if this is the case.

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    You have a broken gun,the safety lever is not a decocker on that weapon,what is probably happening i9s the safety is not holding the trigger from moving rearward and is allowing enough travel to move the sear enough its not letting the hammer fall but once you take the safety off the sear finishes disengaging from the hammer and the hammer drops.sometimes putting more pressure on the sear spring by bending it might fix it or replace the spring if that doesn't work take it to a gunsmith
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    With an issue like this, let Smith and Wesson take care of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sideKahr View Post
    Maybe I should just sell it.
    Bad idea, If the gun misfired with the new owner and someone got hurt, you could be held liable. I don't know what S&W performance shop warranty is like but I will bet they will fix an unsafe gun of their manufacture for nothing.
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    Question

    William........

    If you had a revolver that had a serious timing issue and you posted on the forum wondering what the problem was with your revolver.

    Would the helpful answer that you were looking for be:

    "Buy a semi-automatic?"

    Just wondering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raytracer View Post
    With an issue like this, let Smith and Wesson take care of it.

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    At least call them and discuss your options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farronwolf View Post
    I know noting about your particular gun, but would only advise not selling it in the condition that it is, unless to a gunsmith or other facility with the understanding that it is broken and will be fixed or destoyed.

    That condition sounds like it could get someone injured or killed easily.
    +1 definately
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    I'll be happy to purchase it at the right price.

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    I would guess improperly fitted thumb-safety: they can be mis-cut to drop the hammer. Call Smith & send it back. From long experience, I wouldn't spend the extra money for "Performance Center" as they are basically what stock S&W used to be and not worth the premium. You got it. It's worth keeping, so...

    A new safety & fitting should be around $100. S&W should fix it for free.

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    Thank you, everyone, for your thoughtful advice.

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