Are you prepared for a burglary ?
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November 16th, 2005 11:45 AM
Are you prepared for a burglary ?
I'm not referring to the night time variey, I mean the burglary that happens while you are away. Granted, many of us have gun safes, but there are a lot of our members that haven't the means (yet) to afford one (or more). What measures have you taken to document and identify your firearms ?
It has happened to me on two occasions - one time they hit the house, the other time they cleaned out my workshop. Insurance is nice, but it doesn't come close to replacing everything of actual value. Also, insurance cannot replace memories.
Having already been there/done that, and too old to start over, there are several things that I now do to help with the recovery/ return (ha): First of all is the very necessary video of everything in the house with audio descriptions. I have 35mm color shots of each firearm with close-ups of the s/n and other markings. One set of photos is kept in a bank lock box. The long guns and shotguns have my business card in the butt of the stock, the revolvers have the card inside the grips, and the bottom feeders have the ID vibro-engraved on the inside of the grip panels. In addition, there is a "junk gun" with a box of "burglar reward # 1" ammo left in plain sight on top of the safe. Any other ideas/suggestions ?
November 16th, 2005 12:27 PM
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Sorry Geezer you have had to endure losses already but, seems your current ideas are pretty good.
Most have seen me post pics of my guns and I have other copies of these which have a serial number added. Those SN pics are saved to a CD, of which there are two or three copies. I also have a text file printed out which gives again - SN info but also next to that approx market value.
Over time of course odd changes occur and I try and update but - generally my last CD or text printout is only inaccurate to tune of one or two guns, so main haul is logged.
Fortunately in the house itself, to be honest we really have very little of huge value but yeah - pics of specifics are good to have tucked away of anything that has value, sentimental or otherwise.
Some long time back - I had a marker pen that I used on many things - left an invisible result but when viewed by UV light it showed up. Not sure whether I can still get similar or not.
Chris - P95
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November 16th, 2005 12:30 PM
I'm prepared thank God. They'll need to tear the house apart first.
Why Waltz when you can Rock-N-Roll
November 16th, 2005 01:22 PM
I got prepaired after it happened to me...... You know, the old horse and barn door story!
EOD - Initial success or total failure
November 16th, 2005 02:01 PM
I was burglarized last year before Christmas. Two of my other neighbors were hit the same weekend. They beat in my front door and tossed my entire townhouse. It wasn't hard to tell I wasn't home, considering we had reserved parking spaces. The cops said they chose end units in the back lots, and were looking for anything of value that was small and portable, which explains why they didn't take the TV, the DVD player, music equipment, or my computers. I guess you draw too much attention carrying a big TV down the street. They didn't take my CD collection, but I guess they didn't like ACDC and Joe Satriani. I had my jewelry very well hidden, so they didn't take those. They did steal my vintage art deco watch that was given to me by a sweet old lady I knew. I think it's in a pawn shop somewhere and was enough to get a crack rock.
They found my gun safe and pounded away at that for a while, using my dumbbells to knock a crater in the top and a bayonet to pry at the door. They knocked the knobs off but couldn't get the safe open, and I thank the Cannon safe company for making a good product and delivering free repair service.
The burglars went through all my ammo but I don't believe they took any, though they did feel the need to rip through half of the paper-wrapped 7.62x54R packages I had - I guess they looked like packages of drugs. They imbedded my loveseat in my coffee table, but they carefully placed my glass of water on the carpet before opening the coffee table (large chest).
They went through my underwear drawer, all the closets, the water heater closet, under the bed, and tossed the seat cushions. They left the kitchen alone and skipped the office, probably because of my tarantulas or because they found the safe and concentrated on that. They used my bathroom and left the light on. They did not deliberately break things out of spite - I could've easily had 30 gallons of aquarium water on the floor, or thousands of dollars worth of broken computer equipment that I make a living on. I guess they were trying to be quiet, but pounding on a safe is not discreet.
I think something scared them away, because they left out the back door (they closed the door, though) and tripped all over my patio furniture.
What I learned:
• A 12 gauge shotgun is a great burglar alarm, but only if you're home to use it.
• A simple $100 Radio Shack alarm system probably would've scared them off. I bought one afterwards, but I don't live there anymore. I have one of those ADT-type systems now.
• If you can afford $700, buy a gun safe. I'm really glad I did. $700 may be a lot of money, but keeping your handgun out of a thug's waistband is priceless. Get a safe, and bolt that sucker to the floor and back wall. You can also do what my dad did, if the location permits: entomb it in cinder blocks filled with concrete and rebar. Get a fireproof safe so you don't lose your firearms like my editor.
I keep a list of firearms and serial numbers.
"Americans have the will to resist because you have weapons. If you don't have a gun, freedom of speech has no power." - Yoshimi Ishikawa
November 16th, 2005 03:09 PM
Good reminder all 'round.
I really should photograph all of my guns & put the pics onto a CD.
I don't know what I'm waiting for. :chairshot
I just have not done it yet.
I (of course) have a nice gun safe originally made by Detroit Armor Corp. Since my house was also built by a dentist who had his dental offices in the house...there is also another safe that is very secure & fireproof.
We are alarmed by Guardian Protection Services with a "call in" to local Law Enforcement.
The alarm ALWAYS goes on on those rare occasions when there is nobody home.
Our LEO response time is Lightning Fast in my area. So...I am pretty good concerning security.
Betty's story should act as a "Word To The Wise"
It is never fun to have your personal space "intruded upon" by total strangers who are never up to any good.
If you cannot afford a safe then make a good hiding place for your personal, valuable, & sentimental stuff that you do not want hocked for a crack rock.
If you rent then buy renters insurance that will cover you for theft & fire.
Things are only going to get worse as more druggie type people get addicted to crack.
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November 16th, 2005 04:14 PM
I live on the top floor of a 3 story apartment bldg. Browning gunsafe took 3 beefy guys to move up the stairs...and it was empty at the time!
But, even better, my new neighbor is an old (don't want to say retired) Marine whom I've promised a range trip to shoot my Garands in the near future...I'm leaving for a week on vacation soon, and have already bribed him with some smoked steelhead trout.
He's a real no-nonsense kind of guy...I'll rest easy knowing that the Marines are guarding my armory
"I surrounded 'em"- Alvin York
"They're ain't many troubles that a man can't fix with seven hundred dollars and a thirty ought six"- Jeff Cooper
November 16th, 2005 11:49 PM
Very mean dog, + the fact that no car in the drive dose not necessarily mean that no one is home, one more thing a very heavy gun safe that would take someone with a plasma cutter a very long time to cut into, this thing is pry bar proof, unlike some of those cheap units.
"The sword dose not cause the murder, and the maker of the sword dose not bear sin" Rabbi Solomon ben Isaac 11th century
November 16th, 2005 11:58 PM
I rely on the "avoid the path of least resistance" principal. There's must much I can do, but I have reinforced my back door with a 2x2. You'd have to break the glass or else break the frame of the door to get it. My window I have crap stacked in front of.
I picked up a residential security container, the heaviest one I can personally haul with an appliance dolly. Now I realize that means if I can haul it someone else can, but it's much heavier with some barbell weights in the bottom not to mention all my junk. Due to where I am, I'm not the unit you'd want to hit unless you were just a *******. There's not a fast escape route, a police car is parked nearby, and I am usually home a bit early (right at 5 PM). During the day the maintenance guys are almost always about 30 feet from my door smoking and goofing off, and half the time your approach is blocked by moving trucks. At night I'm usually here. I picked this apartment and not another unit because it wasn't as vulnerable as the other one.
November 17th, 2005 12:41 AM
1952 - 2006
I have photos of all my firearms on CD as well as prints which are in a book that is made for firearms data. All serial #'s, type, date of purchase, value, etc.
I bought a safe a few years ago, but it's only one of the heavier 'tin boxes' made by Homack Industries. Loaded it weighs about 200#. I know of course that won't stop a guy with a crowbar and some time.
I live in the only upstairs apt in my 4-plex. It has a huge front porch. My neighbors know me well and count on me to watch for their security as well as their kids. They will call 911 if anyone but me is up here.
Heroes are people who do what has to be done, when it has to be done, regardless of the consequences
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DE OPPRESSO LIBER
November 17th, 2005 09:01 AM
with an alarm sysytem and close neigbors who most of are retired, I don't worry much. More likely for a home invasion on one of the old folks. But that is unlikely too as to the # of folks around.
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