Atlanta-Hartsfield Not Gun Free After All

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    Atlanta-Hartsfield Not Gun Free After All

    Amazing, someone is finally beginning to realize the fact that non-secure areas of an airport are not gun free.

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    Interesting articule.........thanks for posting
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    Realizing victim disarmament zones aren't free of criminals or criminals' guns is like the realization by some in Maryland that having a high drinking age doesn't inhibit drinking by folks under 21yrs of age.

    Article from the Baltimore Sun: Low Drinking Age Is Backed

    Top university officials in Maryland - including the chancellor of the state university system and the president of the Johns Hopkins University - say the current drinking age of 21 "is not working" and has led to dangerous binges in which students have harmed themselves and others.

    Six college presidents in Maryland are among more than 100 college and university presidents nationwide who have signed a statement calling for a public debate on rethinking the drinking age.

    "Kids are going to drink whether it's legal or illegal," said Johns Hopkins President William R. Brody, who supports lowering the drinking age to 18. "We'd at least be able to have a more open dialogue with students about drinking as opposed to this sham where people don't want to talk about it because it's a violation of the law."
    It's a good example of how upstanding people are going to do what they're going to do, anyway. Imagine what criminals are doing, when it comes to deciding whether to follow a policy, ordinance or statute about "no firearms." They're going to ignore it and do so anyway. Duh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    It's a good example of how upstanding people are going to do what they're going to do, anyway. Imagine what criminals are doing, when it comes to deciding whether to follow a policy, ordinance or statute about "no firearms." They're going to ignore it and do so anyway. Duh.
    I think you may be missing the point. No one is doing anything illegal in the article. It's simply showing how hundreds of guns are transported through Atlanta on a daily basis. There has been no massacre of innocents or accidental discharges because people are obeying the law. They should understand that law abiding citizens would continue to do so, even if they are CCW'ing.
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    “The claim it was a gun-free zone was sort of a misnomer,” said airport spokesman Herschel Grangent. “There are people who have guns at the airport.
    “What we’re trying to stop is people carrying loaded guns in a concealed manner in the nonsecure areas.”

    It makes no sense at all, just another way to force laws on law abiding citizens.

    Do you think a criminal with a loaded weapon cares at all about laws?

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    That was interesting- thanks for posting, OP. It's amazing to me how people can't accept the rulings of the court or the laws of the land when it comes to guns. This is just a mini-version of D.C. and their continued blockade of civil rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronwill View Post
    No one is doing anything illegal in the article.
    Point understood. Law-abiding citizens will almost certainly continue being so, yes. And almost certainly, most CHL carriers will be doing the same.

    My point was that, like with the minimum age for drinking, some of the carrying will be pushed underground. Undoubtedly, the mere fact that it's been illegal for so long means one thing: that there has been underground carrying for the entire duration of that law. Can't be avoided, really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    Point understood. Law-abiding citizens will almost certainly continue being so, yes. And almost certainly, most CHL carriers will be doing the same.

    My point was that, like with the minimum age for drinking, some of the carrying will be pushed underground. Undoubtedly, the mere fact that it's been illegal for so long means one thing: that there has been underground carrying for the entire duration of that law. Can't be avoided, really.

    Yeah, it can be avoided really. There is no correlation between the original post about carrying at the airport and underage drinking. To stop underage drinking take a zero tolerance policy. Students caught are expelled from college, no exceptions. That will stop it real quick. But no liberal college or university administrator has the stones to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctr View Post
    There is no correlation between the original post about carrying at the airport and underage drinking.
    Other than the tendency of prohibition to push usage underground.

    When liquor was verboten during the Prohibition years, many people simply went on doing it. It made things less safe. It helped the criminal element. It criminalized upstanding citizens. And much of the drinking continued.

    Similarly with firearms, restricting citizens in such silly ways makes things less safe. It places stigma on those who carry, at minimum, and at worst criminalizes otherwise upstanding behaviors. Regarding calling carrying at an airport's property a crime, the ONLY practical effect is to criminalize upstanding citizens for non-violent behaviors, merely because of presence. The criminals will, of course, continue to ignore the little signs. THEIR presence is the threat, yet such laws generally only get followed by the upstanding ... hence, they're the ones hardest hit. Makes no sense. (Hence, the reference to the drinking issue.)
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