1911 Chip McCormick 8rnd Mag Story

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    1911 Chip McCormick 8rnd Mag Story

    On 08/08/2008, I purchased a new Smith & Wesson 1911 pistol. Before firing the pistol I field striped it and cleaned it. I also read the owners manual. I wanted a third magazine, so I picked up one at the Army Navy. The magazine was a Chip McCormick 8rnd. I saw that the Smith & Wesson on-line store sells Chip McCormick magazines for the 1911 so I figured it would work fine.

    At the range I fired 200rnds of Winchester target FMJ and
    50rnds of Remington UMC JHP. The SW1911 functioned
    fantastically with no stoppages and outstanding accuracy.

    However, when I cleaned the pistol, I was shocked to see a few deep scratches on the feed ramp. I thought, "How could I of missed this when I purchased the gun?" So, I got out the polishing clothes (Micro-Mesh) and polished the ramp. I was very careful to just make the ramp smooth. I went from 3,600 grit up to 12,000 grit using my finger as a pad. While the scratches are still visible, they can not be felt by touch now.

    The fact that my brand new SW1911 has any damage or defect upset me very much. So, I set out to find the cause of the feed ramp damage. After reading numerous 1911 forums on the topic, the suspect was the Chip McCormick magazine. I focused on the magazine, and found numerous customer reviews describing similar damage to Colt Gold Cups & SW1911PDs. After examining the magazine follower, it seems the shape
    lines up to the feed ramp scratches. I'm convinced that the follower hits the ramp hard when the last round is fed.

    I've put the Chip McCormick magazine into my bag of things to trade / sell at the next gun show. I went to Smith & Wesson's on-line store today, and ordered a new blued 1911 magazine which looks like the two that shipped with my SW1911.

    My pistol is stainless steel. I feel sorry for the person who uses a "Chip" McCormick with a light-weight alloy frame.

    This was my first 1911, and the most I've ever spent on a pistol.

    Anybody else fall into this trap door before?

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    Sorry to hear that, I understand how upsetting that would be - I'd be upset too. You might give McCormmick a call and see what they say.

    I quit using McCormmick mags some time back for other reasons and pretty much only use manufacturer or Wilson Combat mags.
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    I e-mailed "Chip McCormick Custom, LLC" a couple of days ago. I've gotten no reply.

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    I had a CMC shooting star mag I used with my PT1911. I didn't like it all that much because the feed lips were so easily bent and needed ajustment often. I only use the OEM S&W mags or Wilsons 47Ds with my SW1911.
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    I've installed Wilson non-marring polymer followers in all my 1911 magazines that I use in my LW Colt Commander.

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    I carry CMC mags. I don't have scratches on the feed ramp of my Springfield. They give me no problems.
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    Actually, it's not the magazine doing it per se, it's the Devel followers (McCormick in the chart) that do it.

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    I've used six CMC Power Mags exclusively for 2,200 rounds without issues, be they stoppages or feed-ramp gouges.


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    Well known problem

    The McCormick magazines are well known for gouging 1911 feed ramps, especially on aluminum frame guns. I have read numerous accounts over several years of this on gun web sites.

    I recommend Wilson Combat 1911 mags, which have a plastic follower that won't scratch metal.
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    Well, I guess this was a very expensive learning experience for me. I've been playing with Glocks for years. I carry the G-30 or G-26 depending on my attire, and keep a G-19 ready to go. I like the SW1911 very much, but I have alot of 1911 learning to do, and alot of 1911 shooting to do before I carry one. My Glocks only recieved Glock & Wolff parts, and I never had a problem. Looking at the 1911 parts market, there are so many companies and products. I think I will stick with the manufacturer S&W until I get a handle on it.

    Thanks so much for the feedback guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmahle68 View Post
    I think I will stick with the manufacturer S&W until I get a handle on it.
    S&W contract their magazines through ACT-MAG.
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    Do you have - or can you shoot - any close up pics of the feed ramp?

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    I have used CMC mags in my pt1911, with no problems. Must just happen in alloy frames.
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    Well, on the plus side the part of the CM follower that dings the ramp - dings the frame feed ramp in a location below the point where the cartridges use the frame ramp to feed up into the barrel.
    Very little of the frame feed ramp actually feeds the cartridge.
    Only the top 1/8" or so.

    You might want to check out Tripp Cobra Mags as they use even less of the frame feed ramp.
    The top round is positioned up slightly higher with the Cobra Mags.
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