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    Operator errors are always embarressing. How do I know that they are operator errors? Because I've owned various Taurus revolvers and semi autos for over 20 years and I never, ever have the problems you people have.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CJS3 View Post
    Operator errors are always embarressing. How do I know that they are operator errors? Because I've owned various Taurus revolvers and semi autos for over 20 years and I never, ever have the problems you people have.
    I agree, I don't believe the gun malfunctioned at all. I was unfamiliar with it, and once I figured it out, I had no problems. The mag release thing is something I would just need to learn around, as well as the nasty trigger. I just wouldn't want to go through the trouble when I've got a perfectly functional and reliable platform without me re-learning anything.
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    Well, any non-fire of a gun puts us in the realm of atypical procedures. Light primer strike, or failure of the hammer or firing pin to do its job? Pulling the trigger to attempt a second/third firing is reasonable, so long as you're intending to fire and anticipating it might (by following the four rules).

    I don't count this as a ND, nor even an AD. You were attempting to clear the unfired bullet, beginning with the most obvious procedure. Though, I'll grant that your surprise at the firing suggests you were edging toward the "gray" area.

    Meh. Take it as an opportunity to go over the rules again, then move on.

    Data Point: Some months back, my CZ P-01 had a screw loosen up sufficiently to interfere with the hammer/trigger "bar," which inhibited firing. (A friend thought it was him, but that "screw loose" is another story for another day. Ha! ) Anyway, it took a few dozen pulls of the trigger and a dozen failures to fire before it was clear that the assembly was, somehow, failing to act properly. My gunsmith found it immediately, and easily corrected the issue. All the while during the failures to fire, I simply maintained control of the gun, pointed down-range, handled safely. On the few times it unexpectedly fired, I also didn't think of those as ND's or AD's. Still, each was another opportunity to re-think the basic four rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cupcake View Post
    Is there some color cupcake avatar you prefer? Sounds kinda racist...
    That's very funny. I seem to remember once several months ago when someone asked you why the "Cupcake" name, and you replied something like; "that's what I was called in the service".

    Very clever!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonInNY View Post
    That's very funny. I seem to remember once several months ago when someone asked you why the "Cupcake" name, and you replied something like; "that's what I was called in the service".

    Very clever!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cupcake View Post
    NO! NO! NO! It's the gang-name I earned in prison!
    Yeah, well, I was close!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonInNY View Post
    Yeah, well, I was close!
    You're lucky the back of my hand hurts...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cupcake View Post
    You're lucky the back of my hand hurts...

    I remebered the post, my old brain just didn't remember the detail! I'm sorry if I insulted you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonInNY View Post
    I remebered the post, my old brain just didn't remember the detail! I'm sorry if I insulted you!
    Not really, I've just been dying to use that on someone and the wife would kick my butt.
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    How true that is.

    "If a man says something in the forest, and his wife is not there to hear him, is he still wrong?"
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    The gun fired when you pulled the trigger ( a few times ) ... surprise, surprise.
    I don't call it AD or ND, maybe malfunction.
    Reminds me of the old saying: 2 sounds a shooter hates - click when he expects BANG and Bang when he expects click.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    Sounds like a rough or cracked sear. Thats nothing shocking considering the source.
    No , its the SA/DA of the millenium pro. DA feels great but SA there is absolutly no pressure on the trigger until the very end of the pull.

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