Oh that dreaded sound/feeling...

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    Oh that dreaded sound/feeling...

    So today was the baby shower for out little one, I figured since Lima was going to a hen party that I'd hang out at home and clean some guns, sounds like a good idea, right?


    So I get done with my Baer, my Hi Power, do a once over on the .22, scrub the heck out of my AR (had a ton of carbon caked on the rear of the bolt. ), clean the .17HMR; Lima comes home and asks me to do a once over on her Wilson and Kimber and I show them a little love as well.

    I start putting things away when I come across my Colt Mustang +II...


    It's a little dirty as well as I've been carrying it quite a bit this summer as I've been spending more time at the office and less time in the field.

    I've never done more than the basic field strip for the frame on any of my Colt .380s, but once I removed the grip panels and got a peek at the insides, I could see a bunch of grit, grime, and gunky build up, so I decide to take the thing down to bare bones and give it a good once over.

    Now, the one thing I did right was have my magnetic matt handy to place all the "new to me" parts that I was not familiar with, what I did wrong was not take any pictures of what the gun looked like before hand. (This is a hint, get a magnetic matt, and use your camera for something other than gun porn) , so as I'm getting the guts out, I get to the hammer, I remove the pin holding in the hammer, and the pin holding the ejector and the sear and I hear that sound, you know that sound, that sound that you just can't describe but you know it's a spring loosing it's tension and being launched... And then comes that feeling, that "I'm never going to find this spring and I don't even know what spring it was" feeling. I hate that feeling.


    So after a few minutes of cursing to myself, I start looking for a spring that I thought I heard hit over by the couch 10' away from the table I was at (Hint 2, remember that magnetic matt? It's great for running on the floor to look for lost springs), I crawl over the floor for a bit and don't find anything.

    So I call up the Brownells schematic (Hint 3: Book mark the Brownells schematic page. ) and look at all my parts and start ID'ing the parts that I do have, come to find out I'm not missing anything after all. I don't know what I heard hit the wall, but it wasn't a spring.

    So I begin reassembling the Mustang, and I get to reinserting the ejector and the sear and for the life of me I can't figure it out, the schematic shows how the parts line up for the most part, but not how the sear rides on the sear spring. Lucky for me I have two more Colt .380s and I was able to see where how the parts line up, the bottom of the sear goes in between the trigger bar and the sear spring, and in order to line up the sear, ejector, ejector/sear pin, you need to be able to line up the parts, pull the trigger to allow the sear and ejector to line up right and slide in the pin.


    It's not easy, but it is possible to do with one pair of hands.

    I think I'm going to try and do this again, getting all the parts out and actually documenting it with photos for a nice "how to", I could not get out the trigger pin, and actually bent my small brass punch trying to get that sucker out, and by the time I got done with the spring fiasco, I was too darn ticked off to remove the sear spring clip and remove the sear spring, but I got all the other parts out of the frame.

    I did not do a detail strip of the slide as I have done that before, it's pretty much the same design layout as a 1911, only a lot smaller.

    Anyway, I got the gun back together and did the "pencil test" and it passes, but I think I'm going to start toting Lima's Wilson until I can get out and actually test the Mustang with some live ammo.


    It was actually kind of fun minus that heart-attack moment when I thought I launched/lost a spring, the guns are clean, I removed the pink grips from Wilson and put the factory grips back on so I won't be toting a gun with pretty pink grips this week.



    One more thing, I learned a new way to remove a super tight ambi thumb safety today, I still had to wiggle the thing for about 10 minutes to get enough room between the safety and the slide, but one there was enough room I was able to take a pipe cleaner and insert in between the slide and the right side safety lever, wrap and twist the pipe cleaner attaching it to the safety leaving about 3" to tug on and was able to pull it right off.

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    Dang. From the title, I thought you were talking about Lima going into labor.
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    LOL! I keep schematics for all of my firearms JIC. Brownell's is good no doubt. I actually lost two springs last week from my AR-15 out in the gun room. The buffer detent spring and rear take down detent spring. Thanks to Bushmaster's ultimate customer support, I'm good to go once again. Guaranteed...nobody likes to hear that sound and utter those unspeakable words when they know something important has ejected into oblivion.

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    Yeah, I thought the "spring had sprung," too. Breathe! Hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo whwhwhhhooooooooo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exactlymypoint View Post
    Dang. From the title, I thought you were talking about Lima going into labor.
    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    Yeah, I thought the "spring had sprung," too. Breathe! Hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo whwhwhhhooooooooo.
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    You have 3 Colt .380s?!?

    You lucky dog. If they keep going up like they have, you can use two of them to put the little one through college in 18 years, and still have one to send off to school with him/her!

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    Quote Originally Posted by raytracer View Post
    You have 3 Colt .380s?!?

    You lucky dog. If they keep going up like they have, you can use two of them to put the little one through college in 18 years, and still have one to send off to school with him/her!

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    Swapping the pink grips for the factory grips.....now why would you want to do that? In fact I think we would all like to see a picture of you carrying with the pink grips!!
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    Even a duffer knows to ditch the 'pink ladies' when approaching the course.

    Sorry, Lima, but it's a good call for JD. I just hope they find him before the smell gets too bad, once she finds Wilson's gone missin'. Ha!
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    Quote Originally Posted by exactlymypoint View Post
    Dang. From the title, I thought you were talking about Lima going into labor.
    Same here. I thought the sound was going to be the sound of a cup of water hitting the floor. I have heard that sound, and it makes for an uneasy feeling that I can tell you for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    Swapping the pink grips for the factory grips.....now why would you want to do that? In fact I think we would all like to see a picture of you carrying with the pink grips!!
    Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing that picture either....


    And yes, when I first saw this thread I also thought it had to do with Lima....
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    To quote a friend (when a Hi-power spring flew across the room) "Houston, we have lift off."

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    I had that happen when I was taking my P229 apart. The spring actually sprung...magnets FTW though. Wouldn't have found it without it.
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    I dont have a mat, but a couple of those old speaker magnets come in real handy. It's only happened (hearing that sound) to me with my Rem 1100 and my old P229.The 1100 was real easy but the Sig, just a bad afternoon until I found the culprit and got it to the range to make sure I did it right.
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    What a dreaded sound indeed...been there!
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