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    No guns allowed

    so its me again, the budding enthusiast with another arcane reg. question:

    Where can you NOT take a firearm, even after obtaining the concealed handgun license/permit ?

    -obviously, airlines (except for permitted pilots, marshalls)
    -I think I read you can pack it separate from the cartridges in checked baggage (wait, that can't be right, esp for intl travel)..... if so, do you have to declare it?
    -police stations/government offices/schools probably never?
    -what about those stores that say "no firearms"...does the CHL obviate a posted rule or does your permit trump that?

    I realize I can get all this at a course or by pouring through a bunch of regs but I like to get a jump on learning and reading regs is like watching the sun move across the sky - it hurts my eyes, and takes forever. Besides, you folks are smart, quick, and helpful. (and take abuse well!)

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    Here is where you can't carry - this list may not be all inclusive, but it should be a good chunk

    • Post Office
    • Police Station
    • Courts
    • Government Operated/Owned Buildings
    • Church
    • Schools (Elementry, Jr. High, High School, College, ect)
    • Anywhere with a 30.06 sign posted (the standard "no guns allowed" sign)


    I'm sure there is a few more that I forgot on the list.
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    You really need to research your state's laws concerning such. Local laws may also apply from what I've heard concerning Texas. the issuing authority should have all the information you'd need available upon request.

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    Dave you really need to check the rules for your state. Different state have different rules on restricted areas. I'd bet all the restricted places in Texas are probably contained in one small paragraph of the rules.
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    Please get a copy of the Texas CHL manual with the appropriate statues and learn them. You will also need to check to see what places are banned for federal purposes.

    Research is always good.
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    Dave:

    Everything you wanted to know about Texas CHL's:

    Texas Department of Public Safety - Regulatory Licensing Service Concealed Handgun Licensing

    Here's the NRA Link:

    NRA-ILA ::

    Between these two links you could easily find the most common answers to common common questions. Federal, Texas, and all other states.

    Good luck, and good reading!

    BTW, your question is not arcane.

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    You can also check the 'off-limits' list at Handgunlaw.us
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    Dave, Rock and Glock has the right link for you. Read it several times and slowly. I knew I could carry in church as long as it wasn't posted with 30.06 sign, then I re-read it and thought it said I can't, but then I re-read it again and saw a clause under the chapter that said I can't that then said I can unless it is posted with 30.06.

    As you and all of us know, laws can read in confusing ways after several attempts of reading them.

    I'd sign up for a CHL class as soon as possible, all this is covered in there.

    Here are some other links of interest:

    Texas3006.com - Your 30.06 Information Resource - Home

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    Quote Originally Posted by broknindarkagain View Post
    Here is where you can't carry - this list may not be all inclusive, but it should be a good chunk

    • Post Office
    • Police Station
    • Courts
    • Government Operated/Owned Buildings
    • Church
    • Schools (Elementry, Jr. High, High School, College, ect)
    • Anywhere with a 30.06 sign posted (the standard "no guns allowed" sign)


    I'm sure there is a few more that I forgot on the list.
    VA is differn't.

    Post Office I don't think you can in VA I believe thats federal law.
    Police Station Okay to carry in here in VA
    Church---(this one is questionable since the law says without valid Reason) and there is an argument that Personal Protection is a valid reason. However, I don't want to be the test case.
    Courts I believe thats federal law no carry.
    Schools (K-12 are off limits however colleges are Okay to carry on except Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond) some how they got written into the law. Every other college in VA is okay to carry under law. VA college policys say no but you can still carry, If your a student you just have to deal with admin consequences if you get caught. If your joe smo visitor you will be asked to leave.
    Cannot carry concealed in a place that serves alcohol for consumption; however, somebody reffered to this as a provision without punishment whether that is true I do not know i.e. they will arrest you but there is nothing to charge you with. I still would not want to be the test case. I have no idea why this is an I would not want to try it because its still against the law.

    You can carry openly into an establishment that serves alcohol in VA.

    If a place is posted " NO GUNS" you are violating trespassing law not gun laws.
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    Waiting period

    A friend wants to buy a handgun in the city (we live hours away from any city). She is only staying 4 days. Is there any way to get the 5-day waiting period started before she leaves so that she is able to get it done in the time alloted?

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    Is she a Texas resident buying at a gun store in Texas? If so, what 5 day waiting period are you talking about? Gun store do NICS checks while you wait.

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    Clean NICS = Gun immediately, Dave.

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    There's good advice about checking laws for individual states. Church is a good example. Here in MI you can CC in church only with the permission of the people who make such decisions. Other states, I understand, vary from that quite a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Yankee View Post
    Is she a Texas resident buying at a gun store in Texas? If so, what 5 day waiting period are you talking about? Gun store do NICS checks while you wait.
    She is Texan and probably is remembering a 5 day wait from when she lived in NM several years ago
    Thanks, folks.

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    Dave check out www.Texaschlforum.com that site has everything you need to know about rules and regs for carrying a handgun in Tx
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