Taking a Handgun to California?

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    Question Taking a Handgun to California?

    In a few months I might be flying to California, then driving back to Oklahoma with a friend. I'm not about to try to get an out of state California CCL, but would like to carry as much as possible on the trip back. It's a long drive and I don't want to make it unarmed the whole way.

    So my question is this. I know I can fly on the airlines so long as my gun is in a locked case. But once I get to California, what must I do to stay within the law? Can I even have a handgun in the car with me even if it's locked in a case and unloaded? I plan on take a Sig P229 with a 12 round magazine. Is that even legal in California?
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    You're going to be crossing into California with a 12rd magazine in your possession?

    Read: California Penal Code 12020-12040, among others.

    The meaning of "Japanese inspection" might also be pertinent to crossing the California weapons laws, in terms of how otherwise upstanding folks can get treated. Caution is due. It's not as bad as Mexico (attitudes towards infractions with firearms), but it's leaning in that direction.

    Seriously, though:

    Quote Originally Posted by Calif. Dept Of Justice, Bureau Of Firearms
    Traveling with Firearms in California

    HANDGUNS

    California Penal Code section 12025 does not prevent a citizen of the United States over 18 years of age who is not lawfully prohibited from firearm possession, and who resides or is temporarily in California, from transporting by motor vehicle any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person provided the firearm is unloaded and stored in a locked container.

    The term "locked container" means a secure container which is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment. For more information, refer to California Penal Code Section 12026.1.
    What I've done (prior to my Calif. CHL) is to have two containers, each with separate locks, one for the weapon(s) and one for the ammo, and locked in the trunk. That way, there could be no question. Overkill, probably, but then it's the socialist regime in California we're speaking of.

    My suggestion: Purchase several 10rd magazines that will be Calif.-legal. That way, you know what you've got and won't be walking into that trap. $42 MSRP, I know, but it sidesteps that landmine.

    Good resources ...

    California Dept. of Justice web site, Bureau of Firearms.

    Before you go, as well, pick up a copy of this book: How To Own A Gun & Stay Out Of Jail: California Edition, by John Machtinger. It lays out the intricacies fairly well.

    CalGuns.net.

    CalGunLaws.com.
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    Just prior to the election I heard one of our local dealers being interviewed on a radio talk show. A caller asked about taking a gun into California and the dealer said it was illegal. I tend to agree as guns are required to be registered in Ca. without exception and yours won't be. The only exception are retired and active
    duty LEO's covered by federal law. Forget the high capacity magazine which is also illegal.
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    I figured the 12 round magaazine probably wasn't legal and was thinking about picking up 10 rounders if need be, but the part about not having it registered bothers me. Don't want to go to Cali and wind up in the slammer!
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    ccw9mm has it exactly right. Unloaded, locked, ammo separate, no more than 10 round magazines and you will be ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadhawg View Post
    ccw9mm has it exactly right. Unloaded, locked, ammo separate, no more than 10 round magazines and you will be ok.
    I'm concerned about what automatic slim said about it not being registered in CA. I need to do some more research on this.

    I just found this:

    Traveling with Firearms in California
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    California Penal Code section 12025 does not prevent a citizen of the United States over 18 years of age who is not lawfully prohibited from firearm possession, and who resides or is temporarily in California, from transporting by motor vehicle any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person provided the firearm is unloaded and stored in a locked container.

    The term "locked container" means a secure container which is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment. For more information, refer to California Penal Code Section 12026.1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CEW58 View Post
    I just found this:
    That's what I pointed you to earlier.

    Quote Originally Posted by CEW58 View Post
    I'm concerned about what automatic slim said about it not being registered in CA. I need to do some more research on this.
    Read through ALL items on the following page, located on the web site for the California State Attorney General, Dept. of Justice:
    I am moving into California and I own several handguns. What are the new-resident registration requirements?

    You are considered to be a personal handgun importer as defined by California law. You may bring all of your otherwise California-legal firearms with you, but you must report all of your handguns to the DOJ within 60 days as required utilizing the New Resident Handgun Ownership Report. PDF logo [PDF 518 kb / 2 pg] You are not required to report rifles or shotguns. You may not bring ammunition feeding devices with a capacity greater than ten rounds, machineguns, or assault weapons into California.

    (PC sections 12001(n), 12072(f)(2))

    How do I know if my firearms need to be registered?

    There is no firearm registration requirement in California except for assault weapon owners and personal handgun importers. However, you may submit a Firearm Ownership Record to the DOJ for any firearm you own. Having a Firearm Ownership Record on file with the DOJ may help in the return of your firearm if it is lost or stolen. With very few and specific exceptions, all firearm transactions must be conducted through a firearms dealer.
    As a traveler through the state, you are neither importing nor becoming a resident and hence owning it there. You're merely transiting through. Registration is for "assault" weapons, importers of handguns, and in reference to the listing of specific guns covered on your California CHL. There is no general registration of firearms, per se, certainly not anything that applies to folks transiting through the state.

    Here's a link to the Calif. DOJ's summary of California firearms laws: click.
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    Quote Originally Posted by automatic slim View Post
    A caller asked about taking a gun into California and the dealer said it was illegal. I tend to agree as guns are required to be registered in Ca. without exception and yours won't be.
    FUD.

    As a new RESIDENT to CA, you must register your handguns within 60 days. The OP is visiting for far less than that. His only issue is to not bring into CA any magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds. His pistol can hold 10 + 1 rounds when fully loaded. Fully loaded and legal in CA, without a CCW or other exemption (LEO, etc.), is going to be at a location where it is legal to discharge, or carrying on your own residential or business property. "Loaded" in CA means a loaded magazine inserted into the pistol, and/or any live round chambered for firing. When traveling, it's less of a problem to have your pistol in a locked container (glove box or console are specifically disqualified in CA) and the loaded magazine separate, not required to be locked up. Get a Center of Mass container to put your pistol in, inside your luggage, and cabled to your luggage container so it can't walk away. You can then use the locked COM box in the passenger area of your car when driving through CA. Just keep the loaded magazine outside the box (although that is not absolutely required to be legal in CA, just makes LEO more comfortable.)

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    Just don't bring any mags over 10rnds and make sure the gun is unloaded and in a locked case. No ammo at all is allowed to be in the locked case with the gun. The gun should be the only thing in the locked case. Follow those two rules, and you'll be fine. Your ammo doesn't need to be locked up, and you don't need to register it as you're not there to become a resident.

    Travel safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    That's what I pointed you to earlier.



    Read through ALL items on the following page, located on the web site for the California State Attorney General, Dept. of Justice:


    As a traveler through the state, you are neither importing nor becoming a resident and hence owning it there. You're merely transiting through. Registration is for "assault" weapons, importers of handguns, and in reference to the listing of specific guns covered on your California CHL. There is no general registration of firearms, per se, certainly not anything that applies to folks transiting through the state.

    Here's a link to the Calif. DOJ's summary of California firearms laws: click.

    Thanks for the help! I've never been to California with a weapon outside of being in the military, and I certainly don't want to become a "resident" the hard way!
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