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This is a discussion on Talk about a poor fit within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by OD That is really a nice looking Commander, Bruce. I guess the seller doesn't know, they never made Series 70 Commanders. http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/histor..._evolution.htm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OD
    That is really a nice looking Commander, Bruce.
    I guess the seller doesn't know, they never made Series 70 Commanders.
    http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/histor..._evolution.htm


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    true but it aint gonna be me giving my hard earned money till they has some good feedback ...

    Not a very trusting type

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    Bruce,

    I believe he is calling them that to distinguish them from the Series 80. You will not find a Commander marked as a Series 70, because they never had the Series 70 collett bushing (oops, & belled barrel) and that's what makes them a Series 70.

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    I understand that, and even some later "series 80" models aren't series 80 as they don't have the S80 parts, just the prefix in the serial #. I have noticed that there seems to be alot of variables when it comes to Colt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bud White
    true but it aint gonna be me giving my hard earned money till they has some good feedback ...

    Not a very trusting type
    Neither am I. If he is a honest guy someone will get a good buy on that commander.

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    Bruce, these non-Series 80s, are they roll-marked Series 80 and what is the serial prefix?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruces45
    I understand that, and even some later "series 80" models aren't series 80 as they don't have the S80 parts, just the prefix in the serial #. I have noticed that there seems to be alot of variables when it comes to Colt.
    Think that is tough try figureing out the Smith model #'s

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    I could be 100% way off here, but I have seen alot of these combat commanders with either a 70 (as pictured)in the beggining if the serial # or a 80 and assumed that was a distuinguishing(sp) feature. If I am wrong I appoligize for the misunderstanding


    and they all have had these roll marks

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    series 70 is Marked Series 70 right on the slide. Not marked on Slide means Not a series 70 .

    Colt Combat Commander is what i always refered to ..

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    Bruce,

    Take a look at the Commanders serial number range, the 70 prefix started in 1970, but the Series 70 modifications on the Government did not begin until 1971 (and it was introduced in '71). I don't believe the 70 prefix has any correlation to the mechanical changes incorporated into the Series 70 Government. The Commanders were mechanically the same from 1949 until the introduction of the Series 80 in 1983.

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    Bud, it has to have the Series 70 improvements to be a Series 70. Nobody ever referred to the Commanders as Series 70 until the Series 80 came out, there was no need to, they never changed until 1983. Now, you could call them pre-80s Commanders.
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    i just Call um commanders if there not Series 80's But not everyone does..

    opps and its supposed to read above not marked series 70 on slide not series 70..

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    Got ya sir.
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    thats the typing faster than the mind is work ..lol

    wonder if the old 70's Collet's are worth anything ..

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    The bushings themselves or the whole gun?
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