Again..be sure of your target and backstop!

Again..be sure of your target and backstop!

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    Again..be sure of your target and backstop!

    The Morning News: News : Bullet That Struck Teen Identified

    BRAY, Okla. -- A bullet that struck a middle school football player while he was practicing has been identified, authorities said.

    The Stephens County Sheriff’s Department sent the bullet to the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation for ballistics testing after it was fired Oct. 23 from the other side of a wooded area surrounding Bray-Doyle High School.

    The projectile hit the 13-year-old in the buttocks area and exited. He has since recovered and is back at school in the rural district in southwest Oklahoma.

    Deputy Sheriff Josh Seely said that OSBI believes it was an accidental shooting.

    “More than likely it was a hunter sighting his rifle or someone target shooting,” Seely said. “It was a .30-06 180 grain bullet. It was on the downhill side of its trajectory.”

    OSBI believes it was shot 1 to 2 miles away in a north or northeast direction from the football practice field, Seely said. The type of cartridge is known to be used for hunting.
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    Investigators also think the bullet was shot from an older weapon because it only had two lines from the barrel on it.

    “Possibly a Springfield 1903 or 1903a that was modified,” Seely said weapon. “The bullet was in pristine condition. It had no mushrooming. The barrel of the rifle was probably worn out.”

    With the test results in, the department will probably continue to interview people who may have been in the general area of the incident and who may have shot with an older weapon.

    Stephens County Sheriff Jimmie Bruner said hunters must remember to exercise caution when using weapons and firearms.

    “Even when you are on your own property, you have the right to shoot, but with that comes responsibility,” Bruner said.

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    Thank God no one was killed. I hope the shooter comes forward and accepts responsibility for their actions. This is a good reminder, thanks Ram Rod!
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    Must be an epidemic.

    Last week here, a "Federal officer" was out "sighting in" his handgun on National Forest land. Unfortunately for him, two deer hunters were in his line of fire.

    Fortunately, they weren't hit.


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    “The bullet was in pristine condition. It had no mushrooming. The barrel of the rifle was probably worn out.”

    Maybe it wasn't meant in context in the article...but what does a worn out barrel have to do with mushrooming of the projectile?

    Anyway, I think these errant shots are being fired from a 'grassy knoll'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaShepardRU View Post
    Maybe it wasn't meant in context in the article...but what does a worn out barrel have to do with mushrooming of the projectile?
    Small amount of rotation on bullet = wobble in air = low velocity at long range?
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    " Mr. Jaramillo told police he was target shooting five miles away"

    how far can the average bullet travel??

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveInTexas View Post
    " Mr. Jaramillo told police he was target shooting five miles away"

    how far can the average bullet travel??
    In that particular case, (the second link) the man was shooting a .50 cal.
    'Accurate' fire can be almost 2 miles.

    Like the OP says; "Know thy target (backstop) and what lies beyond."
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    Yes knowing your backstop is topd in firearm safety.

    Heck I know better and I even give a second thought when hunting or shooting skeet with my shotgun!
    I work to buy guns. Not really, but sometimes it feels that way..

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    While we are on a similar topic, how about shooting into the air? (you will never see me do it)
    but are those stories true or myths?
    What are the chances of a round falling on someone and hurting them? Seems like a low mass object falling from a height at terminal velocity would not kill but might 'bite'. What is the truth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveInTexas View Post
    While we are on a similar topic, how about shooting into the air? (you will never see me do it)
    but are those stories true or myths?
    What are the chances of a round falling on someone and hurting them? Seems like a low mass object falling from a height at terminal velocity would not kill but might 'bite'. What is the truth?
    Something else that has been covered by Mythbusters!

    According to them, a bullet on a non-ballistic trajectory will not be fatal.
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    Also, it could have been a ricochet...
    Magazine <> clip - know the difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGguy229 View Post
    Also, it could have been a ricochet...
    Me thinks not with a 'pristine' bullet.
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    There is no possible victory in defense.
    The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either.
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    I've seen .50 cal ricochet....with little to no markings...
    Magazine <> clip - know the difference

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    .50 cal rich

    Was that unmarked .50 cal FMJ? i would assume that it was. The article was light on info to was it an FMJ or a partitioned round from the 30_06. No difference really still a bad situation.

    In response to an earlier post I believe total range on an 06 round is 7 miles per my hunter safety course lord knows how many years ago. But in this case i would rather err on the overly safe distances.

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