Ammunition Accountability Act

Ammunition Accountability Act

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    Ammunition Accountability Act

    Anybody seen this? I got it in email today. Is this for real?

    http://www.usavsus.info/US-AmmoRegistr.htm

    It basically says that state by state they are trying to introduce legislation to force all ammunition manufacturers to encode every round they produce that links to a database that tells who bought the ammo, where, when, etc. This way they think they can link people to cimes where a gun was used.

    What a crock of sh**!


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    how would they encode it? In some cases bullets get destroyed after being shot.

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    have seen a number of proposals like that. Sounds like a lot of paperwork. The main intend is likely to up the price of ammo for legal shooters. The BG will just go ahead and rob insufficiently secured gun stores as they do now.

    There are a couple similar proposals as well:
    - add markers to fertilizers and other materials that can be used as explosives.
    - micro-engrave serial numbers in firing pins to have them "stamp" each casing as the bullet is fired.
    - track ammunition purchases.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
    how would they encode it? In some cases bullets get destroyed after being shot.
    a lot of this is about serial numbers on casings... just watch the movies... the bad guy never picks them up, and they always use a semiautomatic!

    There are ways to mark bullets. Similar to marking bulk explosives, they could add chemical tracers / nano tracers. But this could not be done on a per-bullet basis without excessive costs. More something to do for each lot. And our backed up crime labs have to learn to interpret these tracers.
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    Washington State just voted down the bill.

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    It has been around for a while; a pet project of our good friend Ted.
    I don't see it coming soon. The technology is not there yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BAC View Post
    Politics on this forum
    I don't see this as political in nature. It is directly related to guns and our ability to maintain our way of life.

    The one thing with which I definitely agree is that we must be accountable for every round we fire. Can anyone dispute that?

    Now, the legislation and current technology does allow for achieving that goal with any sort of consistency and justice. That does not mean it is not a good goal. The antis also want to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. Does anyone disagree with that goal?

    Some think there should be no accountability. Let the bullets fly where they may. We are 'good' guys. No need to answer to any authority on any subject.

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    I would think it will cost the ammunition companies a lot of money to obtain the equipment to microstamp their ammo. Forensic scientists are already able to match up fired bullets to the gun that was used.
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    I don't know if this is common knowledge, so I'll put it out anyway.

    If you fire a Taser, along with the electrodes that come out of the unit are also bunches of micro-dots. Each micro-dot has the serial number of that particular cartridge embeded on it. The investigaters only have to pick ONE up and scan it and they know where the cartridge was purchase and who purchased it.

    Don't think that they could do this for real ammo? Yeah, it would be tough given the heat and pressures that are being vented, but watch your back....somebody will figure it out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SelfDefense View Post
    I don't see this as political in nature. It is directly related to guns and our ability to maintain our way of life.

    The one thing with which I definitely agree is that we must be accountable for every round we fire. Can anyone dispute that?

    Now, the legislation and current technology does allow for achieving that goal with any sort of consistency and justice. That does not mean it is not a good goal. The antis also want to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. Does anyone disagree with that goal?

    Some think there should be no accountability. Let the bullets fly where they may. We are 'good' guys. No need to answer to any authority on any subject.
    I agree that the antis want to keep weapons out of the hands of criminals. I also think that they believe that all private firearms need to be banned. I guess it comes down to whether or not we can trust them.

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    Since when is talking about legislation to restrict ammo for your gun, Political ? It's talking laws and pending legislation directly related to our use of guns.

    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...tes-yours.html

    If you don't think they are trying to "ORGANIZE" nationally... then you need to read these :

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    www.ammunitionaccountability.com


    They think they will be able to trace the bullet to a shooter in a crime..... I see black market and stolen ammo on the rise now. As well as the defense, "someone stole that box of ammo from my house". So, it's a useless effort, and more to control how much ammo you can buy, use, etc. because they want to limit you to buying only 1 box per month.

    All "un-coded" ammo... their plan .... it would be a felony to own any by 2010.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SelfDefense View Post
    I don't see this as political in nature. It is directly related to guns and our ability to maintain our way of life.
    Swing and miss, sir.

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    Only pointing out the more appropriate place to post this is probably not the General Firearm Discussion area.


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