Anyone heard of a Marbles Game Getter 22/44?

Anyone heard of a Marbles Game Getter 22/44?

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    Anyone heard of a Marbles Game Getter 22/44?

    A guy on I know has a chance to buy one for $450, he says its like near mint condition. He wasn't specific on the barrel length, but wants to know if it is worth the $450. Its a 1908, so its a first year production.


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    personaly i would buy it for that if i wanted one for my collection , but not if i wanted it for a trader .

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    He's a bit of a wheeler and dealer, and the other guy really needs the money, so he wants to know if he will be able to get his $450 out of it when he turns it around.

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    well i would give him 400 or so just to have it , but i wouldnt count on getting any more out of it than i would put into it , its an elictic market , thoes of us who kinda like old chit to hang on walls ect.. i would say if he is a " wheeler" and can get it between 4 and 450 he will do ok on it tho not if he needs to turn it tommorrow , best and most honest answer i can give bud

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    to be honest, I didn't think it worth even that much, but then again I haven't seen it either.

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    Hmmm - new one on me.

    rfurtkamp - Class3 ??? - any ideas guys.

    I'd have thought a real good specimen of most things that old would have some useful value - well, to some collectors anyways.
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    The Marble's Game Getter

    Marshall Williams



    The Marble's Game Getter is one of those delightful little gun oddities which, like Ithaca's neat little "Auto-Burglar Gun," was legislated out of existence by the National Firearms Act of 1934 which, among other things, imposed burdensome restrictions on shotguns with barrels less than 18 inches long. If properly registered with the Bureau of Alochol, Tobacco and Forearms (BATF), the Marbles Game Getter is a valuable antique; if not registered, it is contraband. Regrettably, most Game Getters that I have seen were confiscated guns in police collections. (I do not have a copy of the BATF's list of curios and relics, it is possible that the Game Getter has been reclassified as a curio and relic which can save it.)

    A fair bit of history can be found in Fjested's Blue Book of Gun Values, and Krause Publications' Standard Catalog of Firearms, and I refer you those publications. However, I can sketch it out for you.

    There are two basic versions of the gun, the 1908 model and the 1921 model, both apparently designed by Webster L. Marble and Manufactured by the Marble Safety Axe Company, which became Marble's Arms & Mfg. Co, in 1911. The company still exists as CRR Inc./Marble's Inc. in Gladstone, Michigan, USA, and produces rifle sights and other gun specialties including the Poly-Choke device for shotguns. The gun pictured is the later 1921 model. While functionally similar, the 1908 gun has a distinctly different appearance, rather "Victorian," like a Webley revolver. I think it is more elegant, but also looks distinctly more fragile.

    The first 1908 gun was shipped from the factory in June of 1909. It was produced until 1914, but guns were shipped from factory stock until May 22, 1918. After that date, WWI would have interfered with any further production. Originally, the upper barrel was chambered for .22 short, long, and long rifle cartridges and the lower barrel chambered for the .44 shot and ball cartridges, but later guns could be had with the lower barrel chambered for the two inch .410.

    Standard barrel lengths were 12, 15, and 18 inches, but the factory offered any reasonable length on special order and barrels as short as 8 inches and as long as 22 inches are known. Some guns have no provision for the folding butt stock. It appears that the guns were shipped in a dovetailed wooden box with the holster, folding stock, a cleaning rod and instructions. The box is a valuable collectors item by itself. In 2000, a boxed set sold at auction for $3162.50 US.

    The .44 shot and ball cartridge had dimensions similar to or the same as the .44-40 Winchester, and the cartridges could be obtained either loaded with a small quantity of #8 chilled shot or a single round ball of about .425 inch diameter which should weigh about 115 grains. I can find no ballistic information on this load, but I surmise it would have had a velocity of over 1100 feet per second and a muzzle energy of about 310 foot pounds. The reason for the round ball load is that the Game Getter's lower barrel is unrifled and a longer pointed bullet would not have shot as accurately.


    The shot cartridges may be found either with an extra long case crimped over the shot charge or with bullet-shaped paper or wooden capsule filled with shot. Again, I have no reference before me, but I think the crimped case held 5/16 ounce of #8 shot and the capsule contained 3/8 ounce. Thus, a hunter armed with the Marble's Game Getter was prepared for small game with the .22, birds with the shot cartridge, and larger game with the ball cartridge.

    The 1921 gun originally had the upper barrel chambered for the .22 short, long and long rifle and the lower barrel chambered for the two inch .410 shell, but, starting in 1924, the lower barrel could be chambered for the 2 inch shell. Apparently both chamberings were available for a period, but eventually the 2 inch chambering won out. None are thought to have three inch chambers. The 1921 also was shipped with folding stock, holster and instructions but in a cardboard box. Values of the 1921 are only very slightly lower than values for the 1908.

    Both models were advertised with some other calibers of barrels including .25-20, 32-20, and .38-40. Such guns, if any were made, are extremely rare.

    I have a reprint of the 1940 Stoeger's Shooter's Bible which shows the Game getter with accessories priced at $24 US. For comparison, the Stevens .22-.410 over and under with "Tenite" (plastic) stock sold for $15.10.

    I was very much surprised to learn that production of the Game Getter continued into the early 1950s. I had always been told that it was killed by the NFA and did not survive WWII. However, Marble's Game Getters with 18 inch barrels would not have been covered by the NFA and apparently many Game Getters were exported to places where such restrictions did not apply. In round figures, about 10,000 of each model were produced. My totally unscientific guess, based on the precious few Marble's Game Getters that I have seen, is that the 12 inch barrel guns were most popular. That is the only barrel length I have seen.

    The old Marble's Game Getter was and is a very neat and useful gun for a "woods loafer" or hunter/camper. Easily portable and nearly as useful as a Swiss Army knife, it is a shame it is essentially unavailable.



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    Hard to turn over fast because needs to be registered with BATF,
    If it is not now registered it would be illeagle to purchase.

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    Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm............one like this??
    VERY hard to find........and yes........they're somewhat restricted and or the C&R list... I think the NFA/ATF might still debate it LOL
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