FTF?

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    FTF?

    Saturday I had a round FTF at the range. This has happened once before. Being that I have only fired about 1200 rounds through the gun I am concerned.

    Both FTF's happened with the same WWB batch of ammo.

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    OK, when you say FTF are you saying Failure to Feed, or Failure to Fire.

    What kind of gun?

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    Your post is a little vague. Are you asking if you should be concerned?

    One or two in 1200 rounds is probably in the range I might expect failures from the WWB, so don't immediately think it is your gun. I get about that with WWB and my Glock. I've never had a failure with carry ammo, but then again I haven't shot 1200 rounds of it either.
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    I didn't mean to be vague...
    1. Fail to Fire
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    I'm willing to bet that its the ammo.

    How does the primer look on the rounds that didn't fire?

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    I left it at the range but it looked like a hard strike.

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    Sounds like the standard failure rate of WWB
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    Did a 2nd or 3rd strike go bang? I've experienced that a number of times with WWB and UMC. The odd one won't detonate even after several trigger pulls.

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    It's more than likely just a couple rounds of bad ammo. Did you try doing a second strike on them? But, with 1200 rounds fired and if most of it is WWB (which always seemed a bit dirty to me), you may have some buildup in the firing pin channel and may need to do a detail cleaning.

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    ditto pgrass101

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctr View Post
    Did a 2nd or 3rd strike go bang? I've experienced that a number of times with WWB and UMC. The odd one won't detonate even after several trigger pulls.
    Same deal here but I only hit it twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvhoss View Post
    It's more than likely just a couple rounds of bad ammo. Did you try doing a second strike on them? But, with 1200 rounds fired and if most of it is WWB (which always seemed a bit dirty to me), you may have some buildup in the firing pin channel and may need to do a detail cleaning.

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    I have only ever done a field cleaning. Can anyone direct me to info regarding a detailed cleaning?

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    Maybe someone with more expertise can give you details. I usually cheat. Tear gun down as normal with exception of also remove grip panels (if gun has them), go outside, put on safety glasses, go to work with can of gun scrubber through the long plastic nozzle. Blast out all the nooks & crannies. Re-Oil and re-assemble. Hasn't failed me yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvhoss View Post
    Maybe someone with more expertise can give you details. I usually cheat. Tear gun down as normal with exception of also remove grip panels (if gun has them), go outside, put on safety glasses, go to work with can of gun scrubber through the long plastic nozzle. Blast out all the nooks & crannies. Re-Oil and re-assemble. Hasn't failed me yet.

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    use brake cleaner...works just as well and only cost like $2 per can instead of paying for the Gun Scrubber.
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