Are we cannibalizing ourselves?

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    Are we cannibalizing ourselves?

    The other day, I found a pistol at a good price that I've been wanting for a few years now. I had cash in hand, and was ready to buy it.
    Then I thought, "Why am I doing this?" I'll probably hardly shoot it, if ever, due to time and costs. I walked away from the gun and went home.

    It was the first time I've ever done that. Ammo prices have shot through the roof, largely in part to our own hysteria and poor planning. I know several guys who had little to no interest in guns before, and now are buying everything in sight. While superficially this might be great for the gun industry, what is the backside of this equation?

    Will future potential purchases be left on the counter because of the cost of ammo? I doubt I am the only one who has done this recently.

    When nations are at war, whats the first thing they try to knock out? Supply. Each side tries to interrupt the others supply. Fuel, ammo, food etc. Without it, wars cannot be fought, and the enemy turns tail and runs, or dies off. Is this what the anti's are doing to us, and we are willing participants? Are we already starting to cannibalize the industry?
    "Just blame Sixto"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    Fuel, ammo, food etc. Without it, wars cannot be fought, and the enemy turns tail and runs, or dies off. Is this what the anti's are doing to us, and we are willing participants? Are we already starting to cannibalize the industry?
    3 stages of war...blind them, deny them, anniliate them...

    Yes to all your questions...reminds me of the cost for fuel last summer and the speculating....from $4 to now $1.75.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    Is this what the anti's are doing to us, and we are willing participants? Are we already starting to cannibalize the industry?
    Almost 100% correct Sixto. I don't think the antis are doing this to us, we are doing it to ourselves. With regard to the new administration, there is reason for concern but not for hysteria. We may be shooting ourselves in the foot.

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    We are most certainly doing it to ourselves, but with a little prompting from the anti's. We are falling for it; hook, line and sinker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    When nations are at war, whats the first thing they try to knock out? Supply.
    Those against self-defense by any means have, as a group, declared war against upstanding citizens. Can't get it done via banning the tool, then ban the supply that affects use of the tool.

    They'd be more effective and have more success at improving everyone's lot if they'd simply be for something. Heck, practically anything.

    For life, liberty, an educated and upstanding citizenry, going after criminals without attacking the upstanding, putting into place guards and protections that support people who dare protect themselves, for a law enforcement and legal system that goes after criminals and protects citizens, and so on. And yet, the movement in general attacks those things. It's one of the great affronts to those of us still living and breathing, and a dire threat to the liberties of our children and their children. They have declared war, subtly. They'll lose, but it won't be pretty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    We are most certainly doing it to ourselves, but with a little prompting from the anti's. We are falling for it; hook, line and sinker.
    I have been thinking the same thing, We have to stop creating our own hell. I get the feeling someone is sitting back laughing watching use do their work for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craiger View Post
    I get the feeling someone is sitting back laughing watching use do their work for them.
    This is exactly the point/feeling I was trying to get across. Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    Those against self-defense by any means have, as a group, declared war against upstanding citizens. Can't get it done via banning the tool, then ban the supply that affects use of the tool.
    Yes, using the war theme, you stop the supply of steel and you cant build tanks. You stop the supply of fuel, and the tanks you already have is usless.

    The price of raw materials for the ammunition has skyrocketed. I know why, but the price of ammo has not directly reflected that as I would have expected. It just makes me wonder.
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    I'm not sure I agree with you. I don't think it is hysteria. I call it "common sense". Prior to the election, a lot of people were on the fence in regard to gun ownership. Now that the marxists are in control, a lot of Americans decided to take the plunge and invest in guns and ammo. Several people I know went out and bought an assault weapon b/c the dems may try to implement a ban. Again, that's not hysteria.....just common sense.

    It will eventually level off.

    The question is: How much is too much? Can a person own too many guns (or ammo)?

    IMO, a person should have a wide variety in their arsenal. And you need plenty of ammo for each weapon you own.

    Maybe I'm judging by my own experience, but when Barry got elected, I didn't rush out and buy cases and cases of ammo. I add a little to my supply when I can afford it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patti View Post
    I'm not sure I agree with you. I don't think it is hysteria. I call it "common sense". Prior to the election, a lot of people were on the fence in regard to gun ownership. Now that the marxists are in control, a lot of Americans decided to take the plunge and invest in guns and ammo. Several people I know went out and bought an assault weapon b/c the dems may try to implement a ban. Again, that's not hysteria.....just common sense.

    It will eventually level off.

    The question is: How much is too much? Can a person own too many guns (or ammo)?

    IMO, a person should have a wide variety in their arsenal. And you need plenty of ammo for each weapon you own.

    Maybe I'm judging by my own experience, but when Barry got elected, I didn't rush out and buy cases and cases of ammo. I add a little to my supply when I can afford it.
    I don't mean to imply that its a bad idea to make a few purchases, I fully believe that communist control is coming with the election of Barry. The Commie left has left us to eat the industry from the inside out, and that is exactly what has happened. How many people have been turned away due to supply and demand? How many have bought guns that not only don't know how to use, but have no intentions of using it or at least learning how?
    I'm more angry about the poor planning and the jumping on the bandwagon people. Again, I fully support those who just now have woken up and are trying to make up for lost time, but they are killing the true shooter in the process.

    I agree that it will level off, but when? Will it be to late? I've been buying ammo and parts for years now. I'm set. But, when I want to do a little shooting, I don't want o sell off an kidney because of others poor planning and no foresight.
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    Well, you have to hand it to Barry. He's definitely creating more jobs in the gun/ammo manufacturing business.

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    I'm not so sure it's regular people doing some of this stuff,I think we got speculators buying up quantitys of Sporting rifles and ammo then waiting til a ban and ammo legislation takes place and then selling their stash off for 3-5 times what they paid for it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patti View Post
    Well, you have to hand it to Barry. He's definitely creating more jobs in the gun/ammo manufacturing business.
    In the gun selling business, yes, he has. Manufacturing... not so much. The manufactures are having trouble getting a hold of raw materials, reasonable labor, and transport. The pinko Commi Dems have done a fantastic job of squashing that in years past, and we are paying the price now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    I'm not so sure it's regular people doing some of this stuff,I think we got speculators buying up quantitys of Sporting rifles and ammo then waiting til a ban and ammo legislation takes place and then selling their stash off for 3-5 times what they paid for it
    +1 And by the looks of it the new gun buyers have created a good future market for the speculators. They have the money to buy and wait and create more fear thus driving up their selling prices. Speculators=profiteers.
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    I agree that it will level off, but when? Will it be to late?
    It may not level off. Every time an anti-gun bill is proposed and given consideration, it will cause a certain amount of panic buying.

    Fact of the matter is, most people that are buying guns are doing so because they have no confidence in the members of Congress, or the President, to do the right thing.

    So,the "panic buying" wanes off, gun show supply's get better, ammo supplies pick up and even bullets, primers and all types of reloading supplies become available once again. It looks like everything is getting back to normal.

    All of a sudden some whack-job from say, NY or Ill. proposes a bill that requires a gun owners I.D card to purchases ammo and BANG, the whole process starts over again.

    What used to be seen as legislation that was so absurd that it didn't stand a snowballs chance in some hot place of passing previously, now is seen as something that has an excellent chance of passing and may become a reality.

    The thing is, the anti's which are many(and they start from the top and go all the way down) could propose these things and time them right so that the buying,stockpiling hysteria NEVER goes away or subsides.

    Even if such openly anti-American bills didn't pass, it would /could have the same affect on the supply and demand. Thats really what it comes down to, supply and demand.

    If the demand is greater than the supply, the price will be whatever people are willing to pay. If the traitors/legislators are coordinated enough to time their bogus and criminal legislation accordingly, they could literally manipulate the supply.


    Of course, all of the above is just speculation and assumes a worse case scenario. Now we have to consider, is it a worst case scenario?

    We have a socialist President that cant even prove his citizenship, that seems openly hostile to the ideals that this country was founded on. Our VP is a rabid anti-gun fanatic and has the track record to prove it. The Pres, was the standard for being at the far end of the left wing scale and has promised to pass ANY anti-gun legislation that crosses his desk. He has stated many times that the Constitution of the U.S. needs some changes. The Sec. of State worships the U.N. and loves the Brady Bunch.The Attorney General has stated publicly that the 2nd Amendment does not apply to the citizens.

    You just have to ask yourself, are things going to get better for gun owners or are they going to get worse ?

    Only you can be the judge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    Fact of the matter is, most people that are buying guns are doing so because they have no confidence in the members of Congress, or the President, to do the right thing.
    Yup, Instead of getting up and voting them out of office.
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