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    Found this quite disgusting

    I got this off of another forum a few minutes ago.




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    In case you arenīt worried about your rights. Some quotes for you...



    Some thoughts from former president Clinton:

    "If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government's ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees."
    -- President Bill Clinton, August 12, 1993


    "And so a lot of people say there's too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it."
    -- Bill Clinton on MTV's "Enough is Enough", 4/19/1994

    Some Brady Bill backers' thoughts:

    "We must be able to arrest people before they commit crimes. By registering guns and knowing who has them we can do that. If they have guns they are pretty likely to commit a crime."
    -- Vermont State Senator Mary Ann Carlson


    "I am one who believes that as a first step, the United States should move expeditiously to disarm the civilian population, other than police and security officers, of all handguns, pistols, and revolvers...No one should have the right to anonymous ownership or use of a gun."
    -- Professor Dean Morris, Director of Law Enforcement Assistance Administration, stated to the U.S. Congress


    "We're bending the law as far as we can to ban an entirely new class of guns."
    -- Rahm Emmanuel, senior advisor to Bill Clinton


    "If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them. "Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in," I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren't here."
    -- U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D/CA) speaking of her authorship of the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban on "60 Minutes" 2/5/95


    "We must get rid of all the guns."
    -- Sarah Brady speaking on behalf of HCI with Sheriff Jay Printz & others on "The Phil Donahue Show" September 1994

    Our main agenda is to have ALL guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn't matter if you have to distort facts or even lie. Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed."
    -- HCI President Sarah Brady to Senator Howard Metzenbaum, The National Educator, January 1994, p.3


    "I don't care about crime, I just want to get the guns."
    -- Senator Howard Metzenbaum, 1994


    "We're going to hammer guns on the anvil of relentless legislative strategy! We're going to beat guns into submission!"
    -- U.S. Representative Charles Schumer (D/NY) on NBC 12/8/93


    "Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal."
    -- U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno, December 1993

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    Notice most of these dates are 1993/1994. It is now 2009. Doesn't look they have made much progress in 15 years.

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    Its not the dates that bother me so much, its the names and where they are now.
    "Just blame Sixto"

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    Scary stuff buys and girls. We've got our work cut out for us.

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    I see dumb people

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    Quote Originally Posted by HITCH KING View Post
    I see dumb people
    I didn't know Janet Reno qualified as a person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    Its not the dates that bother me so much, its the names and where they are now.
    THAT!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    Its not the dates that bother me so much, its the names and where they are now.
    That's exactly what scares me.
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    I think we should pass a law making all evil illegal. That'll solve the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    Its not the dates that bother me so much, its the names and where they are now.

    +1...

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    Quote Originally Posted by user View Post
    I think we should pass a law making all evil illegal. That'll solve the problem.
    Nice thought, but as we've seen with all the gun laws evil people don't follow the law.

    Sixto had a great/scary point. Where are most of these knuckleheads now, back at the top of the ivory tower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveyj View Post
    "We must be able to arrest people before they commit crimes. By registering guns and knowing who has them we can do that. If they have guns they are pretty likely to commit a crime."
    -- Vermont State Senator Mary Ann Carlson



    Our main agenda is to have ALL guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn't matter if you have to distort facts or even lie. Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed."
    -- HCI President Sarah Brady to Senator Howard Metzenbaum, The National Educator, January 1994, p.3
    As bad as the rest of them are, I think these two say the most.

    Arresting people BEFORE they commit a crime?? I guess that kinda rules out “innocent until proven guilty”. Let’s just lock them up because we do not like them.

    Creating a Socialist America?? I thought the goal was supposed to be the proliferation of Democracy, not Socialism. Oh, and don’t worry about the facts or the truth, we’ll make up the facts as we go, that way we know they will match our argument.

    It’s really too bad that the media is not interested in reporting the truth. If they were then this kind of agenda would have them all voted out of office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveyj View Post
    "If they have guns they are pretty likely to commit a crime."
    -- Vermont State Senator Mary Ann Carlson

    because it's too absurd for any other emotion.

    Certainly do have our work cut out for the foreseeable future.
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    I know that at least some of these quotes are bogus, and I bet most, if not all of them are. Despite how wrong these folks are on guns and the 2A, they are not completely stupid, which they would have to be to actually say these things. In particular, I know that the quote purportedly from Sarah Brady with the "create a socialist America" line in it has been thoroughly debunked. I'm sure that if you research most of the others, they aren't true either.

    Not to defend the people listed, but if we are going to have the kind of credibility that we must have to continue to move our struggle forward on the RKBA, we must ensure that we do not perpetuate bogus information and lies--even if the do "sound" right.

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    Here is some info on at least the one Brady quote and the Reno quote:

    GunCite - Gun Control: Bogus gun control quotes

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