February 7th, 2006 10:31 PM
I Have Failed!!
OH Master Bruce sensei of the slabside, I have failed our order.
My son, oh the shame of it, has gone to the dark side.
He has his heart set on a Glock(I can't hardly type it!) Worse he has asked me to help him find one. He is looking for something in 9mm.
I don't know(don'twanna either) diddly about them. Help!
What would be a good Glock starter pistol and what should I expect to pay for a decent used model. Nothing fancy. He is too young to carry, so this one would be a shooter only. The shame, the shame, you try to raise them right and look what happens.http://www.combatcarry.com/vbulletin...l_1/aargh4.gif
February 7th, 2006 10:36 PM
G-17 is a fullsize 17 in mag 1 in pipe this is size i prefer used 350+ if you can find one some times you can find them new 489 sometimes.
G-19 is Compact half inch shorter barrel little shorter grip 15 rounds plus one in pipe about same on price.. Look for the newest frame the 3rd gen with finger grooves.
If ya find the newer frames they have all the upgrades and you don't worry about any problems the older style had
Any other questions i'm sure i or someone else can answer
February 7th, 2006 10:57 PM
Thanks Bud, what were some of the problems the older ones had? What should I look out for?
February 7th, 2006 11:00 PM
some had trigger up grades .. Some had frame upgrades with rails cracking ..
Not sure what the trigger upgrade was for ..
Also all of the newer glocks had a different angle on the extractors and ejector for a more positive ejection
February 7th, 2006 11:02 PM
If I were to buy a Glock(shudder) it woould be a compact. (G19 for 9mm) Small enough to carry, big enough to fight with. At least your son will have lots of holster/ accesory choices.
February 7th, 2006 11:20 PM
I'd be with Rocky here - not yet ''Succumbed'' - but a 19 would be my choice I think tho heck, if I can always find the 226 easy, maybe the 17 would do fine - it's the one I have shot most when borrowing.
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February 7th, 2006 11:22 PM
If I ever did get a Glock I too would choose the 19. That'll never happen because the XD9 is the same size, and I feel better suited to me personally.
February 8th, 2006 12:31 AM
Check out http://www.topglock.com/catalog/pistols_glock.htm I have not ordered a gun from them but I have ordered pieces parts. Check out your local gun shows. There may be a vendor that sell factory recondition at a lesser cost. There is one my area that sells them.
I really like my G21, and just picked up a G30. I am only 5.11, and about 160. Concealing the 21 is not all that hard. The G30 has less of a kick that the G21, with only 3 less rounds, 1 inch shorter barrel, and grip.
I have New York 1 (NY1) triggers in both for some added safety. Just in case the finger get in the trigger guard at the wrong time.
If you don't protect your self, who will?
February 8th, 2006 04:34 AM
1952 - 2006
IF and I do mean IF I were to buy a Glock, it would be the 19. I have had a considerable amount of experience with them as an Instructor for my security dept. When corporate allowed us to be armed they purchased 65 Glock 19's for us. During qualifications I would take 5 of them to the range and put 1200 rounds through each gun in 5 days, without cleaning or oiling them in anyway,
They never failed to go bang.
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February 8th, 2006 08:21 AM
February 8th, 2006 08:57 AM
February 8th, 2006 10:34 AM
Send him into the night.
No food, no water.
Aid him not in his quest.
Gun control is hitting what you aim at
February 8th, 2006 10:38 AM
Well, you've got my attention. Not challenging, just interested in your opinion, why do you think a Sig & Colt is better?
Originally Posted by QKShooter
Then, I'd go with the G-17 for the same reason I carry a Sig 226.
There's a lot of Glock bashing, not necessarily here and often in fun, but say what we may, a Glock is really hard to beat. For example, you can get a Glock, G-26, that will readily and comfortably fit in an ankle hoslter, up to a G-34 that's a pretty accurate gun. A Glock is a Glock is a Glock - always same trigger, magazine interchangability among caliber families, i.e. G-17 mags fit the G-26. And the G-18 mags do too. You can get a Glock with or without rails and finger grooves. A Glock trigger is a Glock trigger. It's short stroke, moderate weight, short reset make it easy and fast to shoot. Oh yeah, they're comparatively inexpensive. You can almost buy one and a half Glocks for the price of a Sig or 1911. Or, a Glock and a whole bunch of ammo. Or, night sights and a whole lot of ammo. Or, a Glock and a CT grip.
Sig on the other hand, and XDs, don't really have that breadth. For example, you can get a Sig 226 or 229, but what Sig can you get that fits an ankle holster? Even the 229 is chunky and if you go to a 239 the mags no longer interchange.
Just some observations.
Last edited by Tangle; February 8th, 2006 at 11:57 AM.
February 8th, 2006 10:59 AM
I agree with Tangle on everything he said.
Don't understanding the Glock bashing. I understand comments made in jest, that happens all the time between riders of different brands of motorcycles' and I've also been doing that as long as I have been shooting.
Proud owner of Glock models 23, 26, and 30; also S&W models 637, 60, 640 and 686. Each has its purpose.
February 8th, 2006 12:00 PM
As a matter of fact, I may buy a G-17 this afternoon. Why? That's a good question????
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