Checking guns at the airport... - Page 3

Checking guns at the airport...

This is a discussion on Checking guns at the airport... within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Are you required to have TSA locks (the ones they can open w/a pass key) on the checked luggage or should that also be locked ...

Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 31 to 45 of 53

Thread: Checking guns at the airport...

  1. #31
    Senior Moderator
    Array HotGuns's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Arkansas
    Posts
    15,133
    Are you required to have TSA locks (the ones they can open w/a pass key) on the checked luggage or should that also be locked and only opened by you.
    I didn't have TSA locks. I used same keyed Master Padlocks on my gun case.
    As for locking a suitcase, unless you have a really old one, they don't even have locks on them anymore.
    I would rather stand against the cannons of the wicked than against the prayers of the righteous.


    AR. CHL Instr. 07/02 FFL
    Like custom guns and stuff? Check this out...
    http://bobbailey1959.wordpress.com/


  2. #32
    Senior Member Array HowardCohodas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Canton, OH
    Posts
    899
    Quote Originally Posted by JRI View Post
    Are you required to have TSA locks (the ones they can open w/a pass key) on the checked luggage or should that also be locked and only opened by you.
    Your bag need not be locked. If it is, it is a good idea to use TSA compliant locks. Should they decide they want to look inside, they will do so, even if they have to break your locks. I use a model of TSA lock that has an indicator that the lock was opened by TSA.
    Howard
    I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop!!
    Politically Incorrect Self Defense

  3. #33
    Senior Member Array firefighter4884's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Evansville, IN
    Posts
    686
    The only issue I've had while flying with a firearm was when my luggage was misplaced at a layover just before Christmas.

    It certainly got the attendants attention when I told him that the luggage had a firearm in it, and if I didn't have it in 48 hours, I was going to report it lost and stolen to the local PD and the ATF...

    I had the bag in my possession in less than 12 hours.

    --Jim
    Firefighter / EMT - Always Ready. Ever Willing.

    ~Never do anything that you don't want to have to explain to the paramedics...~

  4. #34
    Senior Member Array tankdriver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Memphis, TN
    Posts
    656
    That was the discussion I had with the ticket agent. Mine was in a locked metal case that had a key lock that used a round key, and a 4 diget combo lock. THEN placed in a Samonite hard side case th had 2 locks made in, and a 3 digit combo lock. She said no, the suit case had to have a TSA approved lock on it, or left unlocked. I showed her the info off USA Air webpage that states.....
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Firearms
    US Airways will allow passengers to transport firearms in accordance with Federal Law. The following conditions must be met:

    Items of shooting equipment will be accepted as checked baggage only.

    A passenger who presents baggage containing a firearm must declare and demonstrate that the weapon is unloaded.

    Firearms must be packed in a manufacturer’s hard–sided container specifically designed for the firearm, a locked hard–sided gun case, or a locked hard–sided piece of luggage. Handguns packed in a hard–sided gun case may be packed inside a soft–sided piece of luggage. A Conditional Acceptance Tag must be used in this case.

    Baggage containing firearms must be locked at all times and the key or lock combination retained by the passenger.

    A Firearm Unloaded Declaration form (available only at the airport) must be signed and placed inside the bag or gun case.

    Ammunition must be packed in the original manufacturing package or metal/wood box, with a maximum of 11 pounds/5 kg per passenger.

    There is no limit to the number of items contained in rifle, shotgun or pistol case, up to 50 lbs./23 kg, 62 inches/157 cm in maximum
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    She called a senior agent over, I showed him the info off the webpage. He said, OK but hang around here for a awhile in case the TSA disagrees. But they never called, and it showed up.....
    1942 M3 Autocar Half-track...M3A1 Diamond T Half-track...57mm Anti-Tank Cannon

    NRA Endowment Member...President West TN Military Vehicle Collectors...MVPA Member

  5. #35
    VIP Member Array havegunjoe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Minnesota
    Posts
    2,206
    Were you not escorted to TSA? The airline clerks I have dealt with only handle the paperwork. They they are suppose to take you to TSA, or is it a TSA agent comes and gets you, it's been awhile since I flew? Anyway it is the TSA agent that might ask to see the gun.
    DEMOCRACY IS TWO WOLVES AND A LAMB VOTING ON WHAT TO HAVE FOR LUNCH. LIBERTY IS A WELL ARMED LAMB CONtestING THE VOTE.

    Certified Instructor for Minnesota Carry Permit
    NRA Pistol and Personal Protection Insrtuctor
    Utah Permit Certified Instructor

  6. #36
    Distinguished Member Array tinkerinWstuff's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Colorado Front Range
    Posts
    1,263
    Quote Originally Posted by tankdriver View Post
    That was the discussion I had with the ticket agent. Mine was in a locked metal case that had a key lock that used a round key, and a 4 diget combo lock. THEN placed in a Samonite hard side case th had 2 locks made in, and a 3 digit combo lock. She said no, the suit case had to have a TSA approved lock on it, or left unlocked. I showed her the info off USA Air webpage that states.....
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Firearms
    US Airways will allow passengers to transport firearms in accordance with Federal Law. The following conditions must be met:

    Items of shooting equipment will be accepted as checked baggage only.

    A passenger who presents baggage containing a firearm must declare and demonstrate that the weapon is unloaded.

    Firearms must be packed in a manufacturer’s hard–sided container specifically designed for the firearm, a locked hard–sided gun case, or a locked hard–sided piece of luggage. Handguns packed in a hard–sided gun case may be packed inside a soft–sided piece of luggage. A Conditional Acceptance Tag must be used in this case.

    Baggage containing firearms must be locked at all times and the key or lock combination retained by the passenger.

    A Firearm Unloaded Declaration form (available only at the airport) must be signed and placed inside the bag or gun case.

    Ammunition must be packed in the original manufacturing package or metal/wood box, with a maximum of 11 pounds/5 kg per passenger.

    There is no limit to the number of items contained in rifle, shotgun or pistol case, up to 50 lbs./23 kg, 62 inches/157 cm in maximum
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    She called a senior agent over, I showed him the info off the webpage. He said, OK but hang around here for a awhile in case the TSA disagrees. But they never called, and it showed up.....
    I think it's a missprint from their website administrator. It should be the "case" containing the firearm, not the "baggage". That's the only website I know of that states it that way. Simply, the non TSA approved lock on the "baggage" would be a signal that the bag contained a gun since luggage is not supposed to have non TSA locks (except gun cases). I'm surprised that TSA didn't cut your lock just to see what was in there.
    "Run for your life from the man who tells you that money is evil. That sentence is the leper's bell of an approaching looter. So long as men live together on earth and need means to deal with one another-their only substitute, if they abandon money, is the muzzle of a gun."

    Who is John Galt?

  7. #37
    Senior Member Array tankdriver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Memphis, TN
    Posts
    656
    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerinWstuff View Post
    I think it's a missprint from their website administrator. It should be the "case" containing the firearm, not the "baggage". That's the only website I know of that states it that way. Simply, the non TSA approved lock on the "baggage" would be a signal that the bag contained a gun since luggage is not supposed to have non TSA locks (except gun cases). I'm surprised that TSA didn't cut your lock just to see what was in there.
    The luggage went through fine. I did the samething both ways, went through 4 airports. The Suitcase is a hard Samsonite hard side suitcase. It has 3 built in locks. 2 key locks and a combination lock in the center. They would have to destroyed the suitcase to get it open.

    Here is one of the same types a guy has on sale on Craigs list.

    1942 M3 Autocar Half-track...M3A1 Diamond T Half-track...57mm Anti-Tank Cannon

    NRA Endowment Member...President West TN Military Vehicle Collectors...MVPA Member

  8. #38
    Senior Member Array tankdriver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Memphis, TN
    Posts
    656
    Quote Originally Posted by havegunjoe View Post
    Were you not escorted to TSA? The airline clerks I have dealt with only handle the paperwork. They they are suppose to take you to TSA, or is it a TSA agent comes and gets you, it's been awhile since I flew? Anyway it is the TSA agent that might ask to see the gun.

    Nope, they took it put it on a belt behind them, and down stairs it went......
    1942 M3 Autocar Half-track...M3A1 Diamond T Half-track...57mm Anti-Tank Cannon

    NRA Endowment Member...President West TN Military Vehicle Collectors...MVPA Member

  9. #39
    Member Array Delcorbett's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Miami, Florida
    Posts
    88
    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    Are you saying that your airline charges extra for having a gun or ammo?
    as far as i know there is a fee with some airlines to ship ammo, not sure if mine does it. the tsa has a whole page dedicated to what you must do, mainly, declare at ticket counter, get card to fill out, bring to tsa agent, he watches you lock it and sometimes it because they don't wanna lose that stuff.

  10. #40
    Member Array GHFLRLTD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Orlando, Florida
    Posts
    241

    How I Go About It

    Having traveled a number of times, here's how I go at it:

    1. Put the unloaded weapon(s) in a lockable hard-sided case with locks only you have the keys to open. TSA locks are not allowed.
    2. Check the airline(s) you are flying on:
      • Determine if the ammo MUST be in boxes OR can fly in loaded magazines.
      • If loaded magazines are permitted, make sure the pouches fully cover the magazines.
      • The round from the pipe(s) must be in a box, not loose.
    3. Secure and protect magazines and ammunition boxes from possible damage.
    4. Put the lockable hard-sided case with the weapon and the ammo/magazines into a cheap, non-descript bag - with clear labeling outside and inside - for checking in. The labeling should be limited to:
      • Your Name
      • Your Cell Phone - if you have one, or your home phone if you do not
      • Your personal email address - if you have one
      • NO ADDRESSES, JOB TITLES, ORGANIZATIONS SHOULD BE INDICATED
    5. Other stuff - like shampoo, mouthwash, toothpaste, etc, could be in this checked bag also.
    6. Have the rules for the airline in hand when you check this non-descript bag at the airport.
    7. Make sure you have the keys to the lockable hard-sided case with you and you alone (Per Federal Regulations 49CFR 1540.111 Carriage of weapons, explosives, and incendiaries by individuals - Electronic Code of Federal Regulations:) at all times. You will have to open the lockable hard-side case
      • to demonstrate to the airline that the weapon(s) are not loaded at check in
      • if the TSA wants to see.
    8. Have the serial number(s) and descriptions of your weapons on you, so if they "disappear" you can report the loss/theft immediately to the:
      • airline
      • FAA Regional Office
      • ATF Regional Office

    Other things to consider:

    1. .Check Handgunlaw.us and/or http://apps.carryconcealed.net/packngo/index.php to determine:
      • If you can possess the weapon at all your stops.
      • Where and how you can carry at all your stops.
      • What are the deadly force rules in each state you are visiting.
    2. Have a copy of the Don Young Transportation Letter on hand - http://www.anjrpc.org/DefendingYourR...s%20letter.pdf. This covers changing modes of travel - car to plane to car - in a single journey.
    George H. Foster
    Orlando, Florida

  11. #41
    Senior Member Array Ivan4x4's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Fort Worth , Texas
    Posts
    505
    thanks hotguns, I'm flying out in 2 weeks and now i got a heads up on what to expect
    EDC's Colt Defender 45 acp and S&W 442 .38
    Springfield XD 45 acp
    Ruger SR9
    Ruger Super RedHawk .44 mag
    mossberg 590 12 gauge tactical
    bushmaster AR15-M4

  12. #42
    VIP Member
    Array 64zebra's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Panhandle of Texas
    Posts
    6,461
    Quote Originally Posted by havegunjoe View Post
    Were you not escorted to TSA? The airline clerks I have dealt with only handle the paperwork. They they are suppose to take you to TSA, or is it a TSA agent comes and gets you, it's been awhile since I flew? Anyway it is the TSA agent that might ask to see the gun.
    I've always had the counter clerks do all the work for the firearms. Then of course luggage gets taken to tsa guys to be scanned/checked again, then it gets loaded.
    LEO/CHL
    Certified Glock Armorer

    "I got a touch of hangover bureaucrat, don't push me"
    --G.W. McClintock

    Independence is declared; it must be maintained. Sam Houston-3/2/1836
    If loose gun laws are good for criminals why do criminals support gun control?

  13. #43
    New Member Array rmiller15's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Akron, Ohio
    Posts
    5
    Going to be flying to Phoenix next week out of Akron/Canton I plan on taken one of my hand guns and some ammo. I plan on putting the gun in it's orginal plastic case with two master locks. One on each front corner. I was also going to put a lock on the gun also. Placing the ammo in with the gun. Then I will put the gun in my soft side suit case is this ok? Does the suit case have to be locked.

    Where do I get a copy of the TSA regs. Are the red tags given to me at the air port? Do they go on the inside or out side of the case.

    I will be flying US Airways Express.

  14. #44
    Sponsor
    Array AzQkr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    In the Superstitions
    Posts
    4,981
    Just got back from Florida.

    Flew with two glock 17's, cable locked through the ejection port and down through the grip, in an aluminum travel case which has TSA approved Brinks locks, tucked inside a suitcase which was also locked.

    To the agent, checked and tagged the travel case with guns inside, off to TSA for screeening and onto the plane from both Phoenix and out of Tampa.

    No problems at all.

    Brownie
    The mind is the limiting factor

    Quick Kill Rifle and Pistol Instructor

  15. #45
    VIP Member
    Array 64zebra's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Panhandle of Texas
    Posts
    6,461
    Quote Originally Posted by rmiller15 View Post
    Going to be flying to Phoenix next week out of Akron/Canton I plan on taken one of my hand guns and some ammo. I plan on putting the gun in it's orginal plastic case with two master locks. One on each front corner. I was also going to put a lock on the gun also. Placing the ammo in with the gun. Then I will put the gun in my soft side suit case is this ok? Does the suit case have to be locked.

    Where do I get a copy of the TSA regs. Are the red tags given to me at the air port? Do they go on the inside or out side of the case.

    I will be flying US Airways Express.
    TSA: Prohibited Items

    make sure to check US Airways regs too, can be more restrictive than TSA
    LEO/CHL
    Certified Glock Armorer

    "I got a touch of hangover bureaucrat, don't push me"
    --G.W. McClintock

    Independence is declared; it must be maintained. Sam Houston-3/2/1836
    If loose gun laws are good for criminals why do criminals support gun control?

Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast

Sponsored Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Similar Threads

  1. Checking firearms at the airport
    By cwblanco in forum Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions
    Replies: 30
    Last Post: November 24th, 2012, 12:11 AM
  2. Is there a process for checking guns at the Canadian Border?
    By Dakotaranger in forum General Firearm Discussion
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: June 11th, 2010, 09:59 PM
  3. BAD-Man AD's at airport
    By mustang00066 in forum In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
    Replies: 30
    Last Post: February 27th, 2010, 04:02 AM
  4. General Aviation Airport removes "no guns" sign -- Manassas Virginia
    By DaveH in forum The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: June 29th, 2009, 08:48 PM
  5. Motorist with 16 guns, ammo stopped at airport
    By Maverickx50 in forum In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: January 10th, 2009, 03:04 PM

Search tags for this page

any problems checking firearms at the akron/canton airport

,
check gun airport
,
check in firearm at tampa airport
,

checking guns at airport

,
checking guns at springfield airport
,

checking guns at the airport

,
how to check gun at airport on southwest
,

how to check in guns at airport

,

is springfield xd case tsa approved

,

springfield xd case tsa

,

springfield xd case tsa approved

,
springfield xds case tsa
Click on a term to search for related topics.