ABC Scaring Parents About Kids' Friends Gun-Owning Parents

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    ABC Scaring Parents About Kids' Friends Gun-Owning Parents

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    ABC: Scaring Parents About Kid's Friend's Gun Owning Parents
    By Warner Todd Huston (Bio | Archive)
    April 11, 2009 - 08:28 ET

    Wait a minute Mom. Don't let little Johnny go to his buddy Tommy's house. Tommy's parents are psychos that own -- **gasp** -- GUNS! This is the message that ABC is telling parents in an April 10 piece headlined, "Before Arranging Playdates, Ask About Guns."

    Here ABC attempts to make every gun owner seem like a lunatic just ready to blow and encourages parents to be deathly afraid of anyone that owns a gun. It encourages parents to pry into the lives of family members of their kid's friends and bases it all on the lies passed off as scary gun violence statistics.

    Naturally, ABC's back up for this anti-gun screed is by a supposedly "non partisan" anti-gun group called PAX USA, an organization with board and advisory councils filled with left-wing Hollywood actors such as Richard Belzer, Tim Robbins, and Rob Reiner among many others.
    ABC gives us the startled tale of some "unnamed" parents who were shaken that the father of their child's friend owned a gun.

    But after months of visits, it did come as a surprise to Stephen's mom, Carol, that Robbie's dad, Jan, kept handguns in his home for protection. The families asked that their last names not be used to protect their privacy.


    This very sentence seems to scream urbanite, maybe even suburbanite. Apparently ABC looked for and found some inexperienced, whitebred, city folk that have never met anyone in their lives that owns a gun. Obviously these city slickers are unfamiliar with anyone living in the farm belt or "the country." Just as obvious, ABC itself identifies with such naive folks because their astonished and silly overreaction proves that they have never been to a rural area in their lives much less have become aware that many kids in this country grow up with guns all around them and that parents wouldn't be surprised at all that their children's friends might have them in their homes. This report shows the wide divide between the pampered city folk that ABC seems to think represent the average American and the rest of the country.

    ABC then introduces us to this PAX USA organization, the aforementioned "non-partisan" group that seems to sever as a left-wing Hollywood actor's resume plumper. And this group unleashes some obviously false statistics about guns.

    The ABC screed quotes PAX USA co-founder Daniel Gross.

    "Nearly 1.7 million children live in homes with firearms that are loaded and unlocked, and every day eight children die from guns."


    Um, no. That would be what the boys at the FBI call a lie. According to the Center for Disease Control, in 2005 652 kids between ages 1 and 15 were killed by gunfire. These are the ages that most people consider "children." After 15 we are beginning to get past calling them children and into the "young adult" phase. So, if we stick with what most people think of as children we do not get the nearly 3,000 deaths that Gross claims is occurring.

    Now, between the ages of 15 and 18 there were 1,554 gun related deaths in 2005. And why so many between the ages of 15 and 18? The long and short answer is gangs. Unless most parents are sending their middle and late teenaged kids into gang infested areas to "play," it doesn't seem that they have much to worry about statistically

    But, logic and sense aren't ABC's goal, here. Alarmism and anti-Second Amendment rights is.

    Naturally, every parent should know what sort of family they are sending their own children to play among. That is only good parenting. But to use fake statistics and anti-gun scare tactics like this is merely a mask for a political agenda.
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    Any parent should teach their child the "4 Rules" of gun safety if their children are old enough to play at another child's home.
    I understand how some people may be concerned about others owning guns and I also understand how we gun owners value our privacy.
    My own daughter was taught the safety rules as soon as she was old enough to understand them and long before we had any guns in the home.
    A little commom sense goes a long way, too bad so many people seem to be afraid of using it.
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    Before arranging a playdate, definately ask about guns. If they don't own any is it because of felony convictions, insanity, drug or alchohol problems, domestic violence, dishonorable discharge from the service, or citizenship issues, or are they just bliss-ninnies?
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    Although ABC is playing fast and loose with numbers, in a most insulting manner to gun owners, their underlying concern is a real risk. As a parent I certainly want to know if my child will be in a home with a gun, and if the gun owners are responsible. I'd actually prefer she play over at a friends house where guns are present, as long as they're secured (be that locked up or worn).
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    When my kids were little I bought the NRA Eddie Eagle program and donated it to their elementary school, Officer Friendly did the program, but that was like 15 years ago.....
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    Not today

    I bet that wouldn't fly today.......even in AZ where we are definitely pro-gun. However that doesn't change the liberal bias that exists among teachers. Only one of the reasons we chose our sons school vs. putting him in public school and letting the district decide who will be educating our children, I was extremely irritated with our older son continually coming home with left-wing propoganda from his high school.
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    Several years ago, my kids were playing at the neighbor's house. Their son discharged a rifle and blew a hole through the living room wall. Fortunately, no one was shot.

    The boy was about 13 years old at the time and had been through the Hunter and Safety Program. He was showing off for the other kids.

    Kids are kids.

    Keep the guns locked up. It's common sense.

    However, ABC has distorted the numbers to propel their anti-gun agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obxned View Post
    Before arranging a playdate, definately ask about guns. If they don't own any is it because of felony convictions, insanity, drug or alchohol problems, domestic violence, dishonorable discharge from the service, or citizenship issues, or are they just bliss-ninnies?
    I agree, although I would be concerned about gun safety, your point as to why someone may not have a gun is much more a disturbing possibility.
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    I think it's great! 60 minutes, 20/20, and the OP about ABC - they're doing everything they can to slow down the gun buying frenzy. It must be horrible for the anti-gunners to finally get an anti-gun Pres. and VP, control of the House and Senate and guns and ammo are being bought like never before by all kinds of people.

    The anti-gun media is in a panic damage control mode. I wondered how long the gun/ammo frenzy would go before the media tried to convince us we're doing the wrong thing. You know what's so great? The people have stopped buying the media's lies and started buying guns!
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    ABC has been telling these lies for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obxned View Post
    Before arranging a playdate, definately ask about guns. If they don't own any is it because of felony convictions, insanity, drug or alchohol problems, domestic violence, dishonorable discharge from the service, or citizenship issues, or are they just bliss-ninnies?

    That is a GREAT thought. I am going to have to use that, I will try to memorize it. THANKS!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by obxned View Post
    Before arranging a playdate, definately ask about guns. If they don't own any is it because of felony convictions, insanity, drug or alchohol problems, domestic violence, dishonorable discharge from the service, or citizenship issues, or are they just bliss-ninnies?

    Bwahahahaha!!!

    Excellent!! Way to flip it around on 'em!!!
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    I have to say that living in Texas, if I followed ABC's advice -- my kids would never get to have a playdate!
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    Quote Originally Posted by obxned View Post
    Before arranging a playdate, definately ask about guns. If they don't own any is it because of felony convictions, insanity, drug or alchohol problems, domestic violence, dishonorable discharge from the service, or citizenship issues, or are they just bliss-ninnies?
    Excellent thought.
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    Were I a parent, I would never allow my children to go to someone's home unless I knew and trusted them. After that, I would prefer them to have guns.

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