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    Quote Originally Posted by OD View Post
    That's a shame, I hate to see weapons destroyed simply for being weapons.
    OD posted this in another thread, so I thought I would relate an experience of mine.

    In 1975, I went to work full time for the Alaska Air National Guard as a Security Police Technician. An inventory of the SP arms vault was one of my first priorities. The vault contained the usual SP armament (S&W M15 .38 Special revolvers and M16 rifles, as well as all the weapons & accessories to field a 10 person rifle & Pistol team. The team hadn't been active for many years.

    Shortly after I took the job, the AK ANG transitioned from a theater mission flying C-123s to a global mission, flying C-130s, which called for a full blown AF operational readiness inspection conducted by our new parent command from McChord AFB, WA.

    The inspectors turned thumbs down on the target team weapons as surplus to the mission, and since we had no organized team (and sadly, no interest in one,) they instructed me to "get rid of them," which I did by reluctantly turning them in to the Property Disposal Section at Elmendorf AFB. I asked the personnel there what would happen to these guns, and they indicated that if another Guard unit didn't want them, they would be destroyed.

    Well, to end this sad tale of woe, these guns probably ended up in the crusher:

    ●10 S&W K-38 .38 Special revolvers.

    ●10 High Standard .22LR pistols.

    ●10 National Match M1911A1 pistols.

    ●10 Remington .22LR HB target rifles.

    ●10 Springfield Armory National Match M1 Garand rifles.

    What a waste! And yes, I researched every AF regulation I could find. No AF regs at the time authorized selling surplus weapons to the public. I held an FFL at the time, and I would have mortgaged my house to buy these guns.

    Hope I didn't ruin your day, OD!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Crunch View Post
    OD posted this in another thread,
    Hope I didn't ruin your day, OD!
    Thinking of the destruction of the M1 Garands sort of does make my day gloomy.

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    "Hope I didn't ruin your day, OD!"

    Yep, that ruined my day, what a shame bordering on criminal.
    While people are saying "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly, ... and they will not escape. 1Th 5:3

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    I lived on an army base as a kid and saw a lot of waste like surplus marerials being buried in a trench and a bulldozer covering them up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Crunch View Post
    Hope I didn't ruin your day, OD!
    Pretty dang close, Terry.

    What a disgrace.
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    stupid government!!
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    Military wastes more stuff ,we used to shoot ammo up by the cases so they could get more and not lose any money out of the budget
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    --Mayor Marion Barry, Washington , DC .

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    Oh boy, the guns that I've seen pass through the property room... its enough to make anybody cry.
    "Just blame Sixto"

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    I can recall being told to throw stuff like thousand foot rolls of armored cable overboard, at sea, because out storeroom stock would be cut if it wasn't used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmhawth View Post
    Thinking of the destruction of the M1 Garands sort of does make my day gloomy.

    My thoughts exactly.
    And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

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    It is surely true that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. Nor can you make them grateful for your efforts.

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    Different motivation and incentives

    Politicians and their bureaucrats in the government are motivated to spend money to buy votes, and since they get it for "free" and didn't have to earn it, they aren't careful with it.

    Individual citizens or companies have to work for their money, and are motivated to protect it and spend it wisely, because they value it.

    Any society is more efficient when government is kept to a minimum and private citizens or companies do most of the tasks.
    Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the Peoples' Liberty's Teeth." - George Washington

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    ●10 S&W K-38 .38 Special revolvers.

    ●10 High Standard .22LR pistols.

    ●10 National Match M1911A1 pistols.

    ●10 Remington .22LR HB target rifles.

    ●10 Springfield Armory National Match M1 Garand rifles.

    You ruined my day.

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