What is your biggest complaint about gun laws in your state?

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    AGREE with those who say "the fact there are any laws", but also add for TX, no open carry, no carry at schools, and the fact that I'm required to take a 2nd mortgage for the money to do it.....
    In ID= no carry at schools.
    BOTH ID, and TX no carry at "public gatherings" amusement parks, concerts and such.
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    Washington State: no serious complaints, we have it pretty good here.

    -Post offices (i know it's federal, but I go a lot and it is a pain to disarm!)
    -No carry loaded long gun in vehicle. (I have no need to do this, but it seems silly I can carry a loaded pistol, but not a long gun. Maybe if SHTF I would need to?)

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    it seems like a lot of our Texas guys need a refresher on the carry laws.

    please show me in the statutes where public gatherings, concerts and amusement parks are off limits to chl


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    Quote Originally Posted by cdjspider View Post
    I dont really have any complaints for WA, if i had to choose one i guess it would be schools too but i've yet to run into that problem.
    The only plus is that for CPL holders we have the ability to carry when picking up or dropping off. At least we get that.

    Quote Originally Posted by nutz4utwo View Post
    Washington State: no serious complaints, we have it pretty good here.

    -Post offices (i know it's federal, but I go a lot and it is a pain to disarm!)
    -No carry loaded long gun in vehicle. (I have no need to do this, but it seems silly I can carry a loaded pistol, but not a long gun. Maybe if SHTF I would need to?)
    I'll add another... class III weapons. We can only get AOW's and Silencers... and ridiculously... we cannot use our silencers. Legal to possess (with stamp), illegal to use.

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    As someone soon moving to maryland...

    Quote Originally Posted by kazzaerexys View Post

    Oh, as for Maryland...

    May. Freakin'. Issue.
    +1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr surveyor View Post
    it seems like a lot of our Texas guys need a refresher on the carry laws.

    please show me in the statutes where public gatherings, concerts and amusement parks are off limits to chl


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    Amusement parks is PC 46.035. IIRC the only ones meeting the definition are Sea World and Six Flags.
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    No restaurant carry where alcohol is served.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcp1810 View Post
    Amusement parks is PC 46.035. IIRC the only ones meeting the definition are Sea World and Six Flags.


    From the Texas CHL Handbook for 2007-2008:


    PC 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE
    HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license
    holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person
    under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
    and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.
    (b) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally,
    knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority
    of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of
    whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the license holder's
    person:
    (1) on the premises of a business that has a permit or license issued
    under Chapter 25, 28, 32, 69, or 74, Alcoholic Beverage Code, if
    the business derives 51 percent or more of its income from the sale or
    service of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption, as deter
    mined by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission under Section
    104.06, Alcoholic Beverage Code;
    (2) on the premises where a high school, collegiate, or professional
    sporting event or interscholastic event is taking place, unless
    the license holder is a participant in the event and a handgun is used
    in the event;
    (3) on the premises of a correctional facility;
    (4) on the premises of a hospital licensed under Chapter 241,
    Health and Safety Code, or on the premises of a nursing home licensed
    under Chapter 242, Health and Safety Code, unless the license
    holder has written authorization of the hospital or nursing home
    administration, as appropriate;
    (5) in an amusement park; or
    (6) on the premises of a church, synagogue, or other established
    place of religious worship.
    (c) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally,
    knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority
    of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of
    whether the handgun is concealed, at any meeting of a governmental
    entity.
    (d) A license holder commits an offense if, while intoxicated, the
    license holder carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H,
    Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is
    concealed.
    (e) A license holder who is licensed as a security officer under
    Chapter 1702, Occupations Code, and employed as a security officer
    commits an offense if, while in the course and scope of the security
    officer's employment, the security officer violates a provision of
    Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code.
    (f) In this section:
    (1) "Amusement park" means a permanent indoor or outdoor
    facility or park where amusement rides are available for use by the
    public that is located in a county with a population of more than one
    million, encompasses at least 75 acres in surface area, is enclosed
    with access only through controlled entries, is open for operation more
    than 120 days in each calendar year, and has security guards on the
    premises at all times. The term does not include any public or private
    driveway, street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or
    other parking area.
    (2) "License holder" means a person licensed to carry a handgun
    under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code.
    (3) "Premises" means a building or a portion of a building. The
    term does not include any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk
    or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area.
    (g) An offense under Subsection (a), (b), (c), (d), or (e) is a Class A
    misdemeanor, unless the offense is committed under Subsection
    (b)(1) or (b)(3), in which event the offense is a felony of the third
    degree.
    (h) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a) that the
    actor, at the time of the commission of the offense, displayed the
    handgun under circumstances in which the actor would have been
    justified in the use of deadly force under Chapter 9.
    [double amendment to same provision]
    (h-1) *[as added by Acts 2007, 80th Leg., R.S., HB 1889.] It is a defense to
    prosecution under Subsections (b) and (c) that the actor, at the time of
    the commission of the offense, was:
    (1) an active judicial officer, as defined by Section 411.201,
    Government Code; or
    (2) a bailiff designated by the active judicial officer and engaged
    in escorting the officer.
    (h-1) *[as added by Acts 2007, 80th Leg., R.S., HB 2300.] It is a defense to
    prosecution under Subsections (b)(1), (2), and (4)-(6), and (c) that at
    the time of the commission of the offense, the actor was:
    (1) a judge or justice of a federal court;
    (2) an active judicial officer, as defined by Section 411.201,
    Government Code; or
    (3) a district attorney, assistant district attorney, criminal district
    attorney, assistant criminal district attorney, county attorney, or assistant
    county attorney.
    (i) Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not apply if the actor
    was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.
    (j) Subsections (a) and (b)(1) do not apply to a historical reenactment
    performed in compliance with the rules of the Texas Alcoholic
    Beverage Commission.




    This is the item a large number of Texas LEO's are NOT very well informed about:

    (i) Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not apply if the actor
    was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.


    Refresher courses can save a whole lot of hassle for law abiding citizens, and a lot of embarasement for the law enforcement community.

    I'm certainly not a lawyer, but I do try to read a lot.

    I am certainly open for corrections

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    For me.............Besides on school property, but ok dropping/receiving, and not being able to cc at Rubie's, alcohol on premises thing. CELTIC summed up our Virginia complaints. But Tango make avid point. To what burns my butt more then politics.................

    That we have to have a permit to carry concealed. Permits, are actually licenses issued by the state. It turns a right into a state granted privilege
    MY BIGGEST COMPLAINT IS...............RECIPROXY LAWS!!!!! IMO- My CHP should be just as valid as my DL. Why can I drive all over the USofA, not knowing all states laws, but not speeding or breaking any laws, not allow me to cc and become a SHEEP? Some one who knows a little law can assume that in MD for instance, A VA/NC/NJ/PA tag Has to be an unarmed person because they dont recognize ANY chp, ccp........ect. Any BG's that dont abide by the law as we do, can think of an armed car jacking to any out of starter knowing his gun and/or ammo are in the trunk? That is unless Y'ALL break the law? I grew up in NJ and cant cc when I go visit my peeps there.....that sucks!
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    No CCW in schools.

    Real bummer if you have kids.

    Real bummer if you CARE about kids, for that matter.
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    My biggest complaint?......... That they have them to begin with.
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    I have no real complaints about Alaska's gun laws, other than can't carry into bars and K-12 schools, but I rarely if at all visit those places. Firearms are an absolute must have in The Last Frontier, and just about everyone here has them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrioticRick View Post
    My biggest complaint?......... That they have them to begin with.
    Gun laws create victims!

    "Good men don't need laws to tell them what to do and bad men will always find ways around the laws"
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    "May Issue"


    Enough said.

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