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    Previously registered?

    Is there anyway to find out of a handgun was registered before?
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    In spite of Senator Dianne Feinstein, and with a few local exceptions, we do not have gun registration in the United States of America.


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    And for your amusement you might like to know that it is a FELONY for any agency to register guns in Florida!!

    Actually subjects the offending entity to as much as a 2 million dollar fine!

    Take that, Sarah Brady!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Crunch View Post
    In spite of Senator Dianne Feinstein, and with a few local exceptions, we do not have gun registration in the United States of America.
    Ask your local Gun Dealer what he will do with his records when he retires or goes out of business.

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    There are plenty of states that register guns. If you're in one of those states you should get in touch with the police, or whoever you're required to do registration through.

    If you happen to live in a free state, don't worry about registration. If you're concerned about the gun's legality you could ask the local police department to run the serial number against their list of stolen guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlr1m View Post
    Ask your local Gun Dealer what he will do with his records when he retires or goes out of business.

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    When a dealer retires or goes out of business, he turns over all his records to BATFE within 30 days.. I know that. BTDT.

    This does not constitute "registration."

    We do not have to register our guns with the Federal Government. (Except for NFA weapons and AOWs.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Crunch View Post
    When a dealer retires or goes out of business, he turns over all his records to BATFE within 30 days.. I know that. BTDT.

    This does not constitute "registration."

    We do not have to register our guns with the Federal Government. (Except for NFA weapons and AOWs.)
    If its not registration I don't know what it is. They are getting a list of all gun purchases and buyers either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlr1m View Post
    If its not registration I don't know what it is. They are getting a list of all gun purchases and buyers either way.

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    BATFE cannot enter dealer records into a registration database.

    Why?

    Because Congress has never passed a gun registration law. Thus, it is illegal to create such a database.

    If you think the BATFE does this, then prove it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Crunch View Post
    BATFE cannot enter dealer records into a registration database.

    Why?

    Because Congress has never passed a gun registration law. Thus, it is illegal to create such a database.

    If you think the BATFE does this, then prove it.


    I don't understand either -- I know the government is not the one registering the guns, but they can certainly look up exactly what guns you own within a certain amount of time (according to my local gun shop). They said the police are able to name off every gun you've purchased within the last (I forget, something like 10 years), then supposedly it expires, and only the dealer has the information at the store? When I questioned this to the dealer (a man in CO told me that in most states, an inquirer would actually have to physically go INTO the store to find out who owns certain guns, and who owns them) he explained that this wasn't true, because the person running the background check was able to name off one by one each gun owned by the person.

    Is it state by state? Can the police/FBI NOT see what guns we purchase a week later? Are our gun purchases ONLY held in the local store, and not released into a database where government can access it? I don't know. Because we definitely aren't just walking into stores and buying guns like groceries.
    It is utterly illogical to believe that passing laws to reduce gun violence will be successful when those who are commiting the gun violence do not obey the law.

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    If you purchase a firearm through an FFL and you have a background check done, the gov't knows what you just did.

    You filled out a piece of paper saying you just bought a firearm.

    What makes you think they wouldn't keep track of that?
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    Since the OP's location is MI, he/she may be asking if there's a way to discover if the handgun was previously registered in MI. They *do* have handgun registration there, done under the guise of a "safety inspection".

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    Quote Originally Posted by M203Sniper View Post
    If you purchase a firearm through an FFL and you have a background check done, the gov't knows what you just did.

    You filled out a piece of paper saying you just bought a firearm.

    What makes you think they wouldn't keep track of that?
    Because it's against the law? The ATF cannot retain NICS records.

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    And Marion Barry can't smoke crack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Husker View Post
    And Marion Barry can't smoke crack.


    The nice thing is that since face to face sales are still legal, there is no way for anyone to prove anything. If you were ever in a position to want to deny owning a gun, you could do it and there would be no evidence (except the gun of course).

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    Because it's against the law? The ATF cannot retain NICS records.
    And the FBI knows how many BG checks were done....
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