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    Ki nd of a legal question?

    So my wife's Business partner has an ex-husband and a minor child with said ex-husband. he was arrested and convicted of spousal abuse many years ago.

    Convict's can not be around a CCW holder. If I'm at her house and he shows up, who has to leave???? Or if he is at there house and I show up there? do I have to leave? or does he have to leave.????
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    Kind of a legal answer

    1) If you're THAT worried about it, go talk to an atty or at least write a letter to your state Atty General's office outlining your question.

    2) Tell wifey to get a better business partner. Women who have been abused and who do NOT sever all contact with their abuser (even if they are the parent to their child) are not "safe" to be around. ANY woman who voluntarily lets a former abuser into their home or place of business has failed to protect herself and WILL drag you and yours into her violence prone problem.

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    never said i was worries about it, I was just wondering
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmac00 View Post
    So my wife's Business partner has an ex-husband and a minor child with said ex-husband. he was arrested and convicted of spousal abuse many years ago.

    Convict's can not be around a CCW holder. If I'm at her house and he shows up, who has to leave???? Or if he is at there house and I show up there? do I have to leave? or does he have to leave.????
    Not familiar with NY law, but does it specify convicted felon? I believe that in most states spousal abuse is a considered a misdemeanor conviction and not a felony conviction. Also I believe it would have to do with association and not just simply being in proximity of a CCW holder. Depending on how the law reads I would guess it would be the homeowners determination as to who has to leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    Not familiar with NY law, but does it specify convicted felon? I believe that in most states spousal abuse is a considered a misdemeanor conviction and not a felony conviction. Also I believe it would have to do with association and not just simply being in proximity of a CCW holder. Depending on how the law reads I would guess it would be the homeowners determination as to who has to leave.

    ya, it might be convicted felon, I'm not sure? and if it comes down to the home owner determination?.......I win she hates the dude
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    Just because you're in the same room, house, business with an ex-felon and you are personally armed, I don't see a problem.
    Unless you plan on giving him access to your firearm, there isn't a problem.
    You are certainly entitled to be armed in that situation, and I would prefer that it be concealed.
    I don't think people realize how many felons they may or may not come in contact with daily...depending upon your business.

    Just because I'm at a family get-together and the nephew-in-law who was in prison shows up...it's not my problem...I'm still legal. He will not have access to my gun...that's if he behaves himself, of course.OMO INAL
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    Just because you're in the same room, house, business with an ex-felon and you are personally armed, I don't see a problem.
    Unless you plan on giving him access to your firearm, there isn't a problem.
    You are certainly entitled to be armed in that situation, and I would prefer that it be concealed.
    I don't think people realize how many felons they may or may not come in contact with daily...depending upon your business.

    Just because I'm at a family get-together and the nephew-in-law who was in prison shows up...it's not my problem...I'm still legal. He will not have access to my gun...that's if he behaves himself, of course.OMO INAL



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    "Convict's can not be around a CCW holder."
    If you can please give a reference to any NYS law where this is stated.

    The person in the next seat at a theater may be an ex con.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boscobeans View Post
    "Convict's can not be around a CCW holder."
    If you can please give a reference to any NYS law where this is stated.

    The person in the next seat at a theater may be an ex con.
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    let me see if I can find the statute?
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    Quote Originally Posted by boscobeans View Post
    "Convict's can not be around a CCW holder."
    If you can please give a reference to any NYS law where this is stated.

    The person in the next seat at a theater may be an ex con.
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    okay, I can't find anything related to being in contact with a convict.

    But here is why I ask. I was told that a convict can not fraternize with anyone that has a CCW permit? Convicts can not "knowingly" associate with a CCW permit holder, so logically that works both ways? right?

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    It would seem if you have a legal right to be there, you would have nothing to worry about. It's his responsibility to abide by his restrictions, not yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmac00 View Post
    okay, I can't find anything related to being in contact with a convict.

    But here is why I ask. I was told that a convict can not fraternize with anyone that has a CCW permit? Convicts can not "knowingly" associate with a CCW permit holder, so logically that works both ways? right?

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    I do not know anything about NY law, but I do know there is a lot of false information out there that was pulled out of the air. Check it out. I tend to doubt the info. I am not sure why one would want to associate with a felon.

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    "but I do know there is a lot of false information out there that was pulled out of the air."

    Oh So true.

    Must an ex-con declare his past to everyone he meets ? NO
    Must a person with a CCW permit announce it to everyone he meets ? NO

    I associate with a lot of people and I am not sure as to whether or not they may have crossed the line at some point in the past. If they did how are they to know that I am carrying a pistol since I keep that fact as well as the pistol to myself.

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    I do know a couple of attorney's, I will just ask them. I don't see them to often but when I get around to it and if I rememberI'll ask them
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