.380 Popularity vs. Perceived Lack of Power

This is a discussion on .380 Popularity vs. Perceived Lack of Power within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by GunnyBunny Actually his PPK was chambered for 7.65mm (aka .32ACP), not .380. Cool! I did not know that. But that makes the ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyBunny View Post
    Actually his PPK was chambered for 7.65mm (aka .32ACP), not .380.
    Cool!
    I did not know that.
    But that makes the .380 better that his gun ,right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ASSA9 View Post
    Cool!
    I did not know that.
    But that makes the .380 better that his gun ,right?
    Sure, but can you make a headshot in a single try at 100yds with a pocket gun one-handed like Bond can?
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    Until the statistics show a disproportionate percentage of actual shootings using .380 failed to stop attacks as compared to other calibers, then it's mere perception.

    .380 and 9mm here, as well.
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    Lightbulb .380 good to carry but poor for defense!

    Most of .380 are wonderful guns to carry concealed. The problem is - they're quite weak to defend you, much worse than many other guns.

    There was a funny cartoon - the guy pulls a concealed gun from its holster, and by the time he points it - the gun grows from a small .38 sub to a 9" .454 SRH or such.

    Since it isn't likely to happen to us in real life - people choose more often than not a more "powerful" compromise, i.e. a gun that's not as easy to conceal and carry, but providing more "punch" than .380 with the best load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GWRedDragon View Post
    Sure, but can you make a headshot in a single try at 100yds with a pocket gun one-handed like Bond can?
    No I can not!
    But hey, I'm licensed to carry , not licensed to kill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puncho View Post
    It's time we dumb this down.

    Nissan Murano=.22
    Honda Pilot=.25
    Chevy Colorado= .32
    Ford Ranger 6 Cyl.= .380
    Ford F150=.38 Special
    Ford F150 4X4= .38 Plus P
    Ford F250= .40 Cal
    Ford F250&350 4X4= .45 Cal


    what truck is 9mm then?

    And what caliber are:
    Prius
    Smartcar

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    I don't think I would base my choice of defensive weapon on what happened in a James Bond movie, otherwise I would get a gun like the Lone Rangers that never runs out of bullets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cz2075bd View Post
    what truck is 9mm then?

    And what caliber are:
    Prius
    Smartcar
    2mm pinfire.

    You know, for these:

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    Quote Originally Posted by cz2075bd View Post
    what truck is 9mm then?

    And what caliber are:
    Prius
    Smartcar
    Dodge Mega Cab Gas 8cyl. Hemi= 9mm
    Prius= Paint Balls
    Smart Car= Air Soft Pellet
    Last edited by puncho; August 4th, 2009 at 08:03 PM. Reason: Forgot info

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    Since the original topic of the thread is about the popularity of the .380, we should point out that part of the popularity is fueled by the sexiness of some of the guns chambered for that round.

    I bought this for the wife two months back:




    Bersa Thunder CC with Marschal Grips

    It's the right size, the right shape, snag-free, it's good looking, low-noise and low-recoil, curved grip so it won't dig into the wife's side when carrying, and of course loaded with Cor Bon DPX or other modern defensive ammo, 8+1 says she has a fighting chance.

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    I have to admit, as much as it pains me, that is one nice-looking little pistol! But the top Training Center Gurus (Gunsite, Thunder Ranch, etc.) relay too many stories of women currently under their instruction who are there expressly to learn how to handle a more effective SD caliber (9mm+)...after previously using a lesser caliber in real SD had convinced these women of their desire/need to move up.
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    Knowing what I know now about the P3At I would have picked something else. I got caught up in the neat looking small gun that my wife can handle idea. She likes it, and it does shoot well. Just having mag catch problems that a new mag catch has not completely fixed. As said earlier, quality is not always what it should be. The little gun is labor intensive. At least I have some ammo to feed it if the need arrises. And my wife is comfortable using it, so that makes a difference too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cz2075bd View Post
    And what caliber are:
    Prius
    Smartcar
    Prius = BBB gun
    Smartcar = airsoft

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefjason View Post
    Knowing what I know now about the P3At I would have picked something else. I got caught up in the neat looking small gun that my wife can handle idea. She likes it, and it does shoot well. Just having mag catch problems that a new mag catch has not completely fixed. As said earlier, quality is not always what it should be. The little gun is labor intensive. At least I have some ammo to feed it if the need arrises. And my wife is comfortable using it, so that makes a difference too.
    My P3AT worked perfectly right out of the box. I put 150 rounds through it the first day at the range without a single misfire or jam. Hard for me to bash it. I was stoked to look at the new Sig P238 but then saw it had a recall, as did the Ruger LCP. Khars cost an arm and a leg. As the gun makers rush to make smaller more powerful CC guns it is liable to be somewhat common. Look at the price of the guns and what they are designed to be. These are defense guns... not range or competition guns.

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