Who would've thought...
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August 13th, 2009 10:41 AM
Who would've thought...
Based on the media, who would have thought that most guns traced in NY came from is NY and not VA, NC, etc.
or that the time from the purchase to the recovery was over three years. Sort of debunks the cooling off period arguments.
Bloomberg for lying.
I'm just one root in a grassroots organization. No one should assume that I speak for the VCDL.
I am neither an attorney-at-law nor I do play one on television or on the internet. No one should assumes my opinion is legal advice.
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August 13th, 2009 12:19 PM
Not suprising really, that the facts never support the conclusions of the anti's.
"Cooling off" periods never have been anything more than a scam.
I would rather stand against the cannons of the wicked than against the prayers of the righteous.
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August 13th, 2009 01:49 PM
"First gallant South Carolina nobly made the stand."
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August 13th, 2009 01:55 PM
Please do not confuse anti's with facts, they will never understand.
When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
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August 13th, 2009 02:24 PM
Is this really a surprise? Trying to explain facts to one of these dimwits is like trying to explain an airplane to a caveman.
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August 13th, 2009 11:01 PM
Or a kleenex to a gorilla
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August 14th, 2009 12:10 AM
Bloomberg lies to hide his failures.
"He went on two legs, wore clothes and was a human being, but nevertheless he was in reality a wolf of the Steppes. He had learned a good deal . . . and was a fairly clever fellow. What he had not learned, however, was this: to find contentment in himself and his own life. The cause of this apparently was that at the bottom of his heart he knew all the time (or thought he knew) that he was in reality not a man, but a wolf of the Steppes."
August 14th, 2009 09:45 AM
To be honest, this data is kind of meaningless to me without a more comprehensive breakdown of the circumstances that lead to each individual trace. From the "Time to Crime" page, the total number of firearms "used" (this is not defined) in crimes was 5,385. However, the total number of traces, from the "Top Categories Reported on Firearm Traces With a New York Recovery" was 9,814. These extra traces could easily be unnecessary traces that come from a faulty investigation of a law abiding gun owner. Think about it: neighbor calls police to report "man with a gun" for some reason, police go to collector's home, sieze his "arsenal," run traces to find that (surprise) the guns were legally purchased in NY, and after a few years of legal wrangling the collecter gets some or all of his stuff back. Do that a few times and you have thousands of traces. Now, how do you justify your budget? Make a bunch of vague graphs talking about the traces, whether they had a purpose or not. Nowhere in this report does it state that all of these are guns recovered from crime scenes, or used in crimes. Note that the largest crime that (seems to have) lead to a trace was "Possession of a Weapon." It does not say whether there was a conviction stemming from the circumstances surrounding the trace. Again, those could easily be all the traces the NYPD ran on the lawfully acquired guns their subjects had the audacity to own.
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