Indexing troubles

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    I thought I had this one licked. I own a Kel Tec P-11 and this is the pistol I am having my trouble with. I noticed one day when practicing my draw that I was indexing the pistol by placing my index finger on the trigger guard and NOT along the slide. This bothered me immensely. I practiced my draw for about the next 15 or 20 minutes and then again over the next few days to make myself index the slide. When I received my Gun Pack I drew from it, of course my weapon is unloaded through all of this, and I indexed the doggon trigger guard again . My grip on this pistol lines my trigger finger up straight with the trigger and I have to point it upwards to index the slide. Is this stretching the finger upwards just the nature of this type of pistol? Do I need to just continue working on it or do some people index the trigger guard?
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    Maybe you can adjust your cant to change the angle of the gun when you reach for it.
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    You need to make more practice draws. Like typing, muscle memory comes with practice...eventually your index finger will be where it should be...OMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    You need to make more practice draws. Like typing, muscle memory comes with practice...eventually your index finger will be where it should be...OMO
    Practice it is then. I have been looking at tons of pictures of others indexing at it seems that some index the trigger guard. With some pistols and a high hand hold it looks like the natural point of the index finger is along the slide without having to point it upwards.
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    Practice is always good. But the real problem is that deadly holster. It can't really be a matter of training and practice. Why, I've heard that you won't be allowed into a training class because that holster has been banned. You should find a holster that doesn't trick your finger, and send that Supertuck Deluxe to me. I'll make sure you don't shoot yourself in the leg.
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    Dont point your finger out straight... it can cause you to have an excited twitch and pull motion.

    Curve your pointer finger slightly so it is more or less pointing into the side of the gun. This may help with where your finger lands on the slide and stop you from jerking your finger back in excitement at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom357 View Post
    Practice is always good. But the real problem is that deadly holster. It can't really be a matter of training and practice. Why, I've heard that you won't be allowed into a training class because that holster has been banned. You should find a holster that doesn't trick your finger, and send that Supertuck Deluxe to me. I'll make sure you don't shoot yourself in the leg.
    You had me going for a minute there. The way I draw from the Supertuck will be different from the way I draw from an OWB anyhow. I cannot fully grasp the handle so I partially grip the handle, thumb the rear sight, then readjust my grip when the pistol clears the slide. Even if I had the combat cup on the holster I think my love handle would get in the way, I am working on that. I just don't want to be the one getting yelled at in Academy because I cannot get it im my skull to index the slide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swatspyder View Post
    Dont point your finger out straight... it can cause you to have an excited twitch and pull motion.

    Curve your pointer finger slightly so it is more or less pointing into the side of the gun. This may help with where your finger lands on the slide and stop you from jerking your finger back in excitement at some point.
    I have also seen this technique. Have to give it a try.
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    On My P11 I point my finger up to align along the slide,if I extend it straight out it lines up along the trigger guard,I personally wouldn't advise to curve your finger it could very easily end up on the trigger instead of alongside the trigger guard, not good
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    All great points, no pun intended. I will definitely be working on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    On My P11 I point my finger up to align along the slide,if I extend it straight out it lines up along the trigger guard,I personally wouldn't advise to curve your finger it could very easily end up on the trigger instead of alongside the trigger guard, not good
    Either way, the pointer finger should end up on the slide... Landing on the trigger is possible with a straight finger or curved finger. One way has the advantage of not jerking back as easily.

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