September 10th, 2009 11:53 AM
Gun Shot blow out kit
One thing that we all have in common is that we are all shooters. And we all know that accidents happen. How many of you have a gun shot blow out kit in your range bag (not in your car) and know how to use it? Not sure if this is the appropriate forum but I hope it stays here so everyone sees it. I am not talking about a Boo Boo kit, I am talking about treating a GSW on the scene within seconds to train someones life.
One another note, if you are carrying a firearm you should also have a blow out kit in your bag/car. Thoughts?
September 10th, 2009 02:36 PM
OK, anyone have any training on how to treat a GSW?
September 10th, 2009 02:42 PM
I carry one of these in each of my cars and one in my range bag. They can fit into your cargo pockets on BDU's.
Tactical Medical Packs.
September 10th, 2009 04:38 PM
mercop... Of course I do. I'm a swat team paramedic, so yes.
Dedicated for my range bag, I have a custom made Blow Out kit I put together in a pouch which is only about 7 1/2" x 8" x 2" in size.
In that kit, I do have some "boo boo kit" items such as couple antiseptic wipes, band aids, a couple steri-strips to cover and protect minor cuts and scrapes mainly because those injuries are common at the range and because of all the lead exposure, it's nice to have something handy to keep wounds clean and covered.
But more importantly, the kit I carry in the range bag is geared specifically for gunshot wounds.
In that kit I have hemorrhage control, and airway management items.
Specifically, a CAT tourniquet, pressure dressings, Celox hemostatic agent, Asherman chest seal, 3 1/2" chest decompression needles, nasal pharyngeal airways, triangular bandage and a unique very compact inflatable "pocket mask" with one way valve manufactured by Laerdal. The pocket mask is stored in a size approx. 1.5" X 1.5" yet inflated with 2 large breaths it inflates into a full size pocket mask with one way check valve and fits in my blow out kit nicely. I also have a scalpel and a short 5mm cuffed ET tube for an emergency cricothyrotomy.
That kit is always in my range bag.
However, I also always bring with me anytime I go shooting, the trauma kit I carry as the tactical medic on the swat team. It is state of the art, very compact (12" x 14" x 5") and not cheap. Total value for that kit is well over $1,000
Much more comprehensive and advanced it has several grab and rip blow out kits capable of treating a minimum of 4 or 5 independent gunshot wounds, severe burns, major hemorrhage, and also contains more advanced airway items including an commercially packaged emergency cricothyrotomy kit, an endotracheal intubation kit as well as a King airway, manual suction device and bag-valve-mask. Also a multi-size C-collar and two Sam splints for fracture management. Also able to treat eye injuries and environmental emergencies. It also has a comprehensive supply of OTC meds and ointments and for general force protection health. I also have a Kendrick Traction Splint to stabilize a fractured femur which weighs approx 1 lb and in a kit approx 4" x 9".
While that kit certainly isn't necessary for a trip to the range, I have it, I'm trained to use it, I put it together myself so why not have it available, right?
Mercop, if you would like more details or sources for items I have put together or photos, feel free to PM me.
"The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, prey on those who without one, would surely perish."
September 10th, 2009 06:35 PM
Call me and I'll turf a kit or two your way.
"The liberty of the individual is no gift of civilization. It was greatest before there was any civilization." Sigmund Freud
September 10th, 2009 06:48 PM
Thanks bro, I have to say I am alarmed by the lack of interest in this thread. Too many people prepared to shoot, not enough prepared to treat a gun shot wound. Wouldn't it suck to do everything right and fend off a violent attack, and look over and see a loved one with a GSW and have not training or equipment to save them?
September 10th, 2009 07:09 PM
I understand what your saying,I know basic first aid and 99% of the time I shoot there is a Doctor within 10 feet of me,In most situations I can think of other than controlling bleeding and making sure person is breathing It's a matter of waiting on the paramedics.
Originally Posted by mercop
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September 10th, 2009 07:21 PM
I guess my poltice of mustard root and feathermoss wont cut it,but I do now have some surplus field dressings from a corpman buddy,thanks for the reminder!
Originally Posted by Bark'n
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September 10th, 2009 07:22 PM
I had been train but I don't have an actual pack....(had to turn it in to Uncle Sam)
"You can say 'stop' or 'alto' or use any other word you think will work but I've found that a large bore muzzle pointed at someone's head is pretty much the universal language."
September 10th, 2009 07:29 PM
Originally Posted by dukalmighty
There is a Dr with you whenever you CCW?
September 10th, 2009 07:35 PM
I have a nice kit in my car, trauma pads, airways, cervical spine stabilization gear etc - 8 years prior military service, 10 years service as Paramedic, former cpr and first aid instructor...
in the house I have access to feminine napkins and duct tape... what else do I need?
September 10th, 2009 07:46 PM
Blow out kit
I've read about tampons being used to plug bullet holes in people. If so,carry them as well.
I'm an EMT as well and a medic that served in RVN.
Here in NJ all we can do is airway maintenance, control bleeding and treat for shock basically then wait for paramedics.
We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.-George Orwell
September 10th, 2009 07:58 PM
Mercop: I agree with your assessment. I see folks buying 5-6 holsters for different guns @ $130+ each. But to spend some money on a blow out kit isn't on their radar. Go figure.
September 10th, 2009 08:30 PM
Here's a piece I wrote for the reference forum a while back : http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...anagement.html
Originally Posted by mercop
no substitute for training, but it's a step in the right direction.
Battle Plan (n) - a list of things that aren't going to happen if you are attacked.
Blame it on Sixto - now that is a viable plan.
September 10th, 2009 08:40 PM
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