Got asked the Gun In The House ? today
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October 10th, 2009 07:22 AM
In the days before the New Bolsheviks gained power I would have been in the "NOYFB" crowd (I did put that on the long form census in 1990). But today I figure my medical records will be in the hands of the Bolsheviks shortly, so I will lie and say NO, anything else WILL be taken as a YES. I will lie and evade on all medical forms in any manor not directly germane to my visit or long term health from this point forward.
October 11th, 2009 03:04 PM
You might be surprised by this. To a reasonable human being, a response of N/A or NOYFB, is interpreted as a yes, but someone entering the response into an electronic medical record can't just put an affirmative response where there isn't one. Depending upon who it is, he or she could (in theory) get in trouble for that. In all likelihood, what gets entered will be something along the lines of no, n/a, blank, or deferred.
Originally Posted by F350
Considering how conservative the culture of medicine is, I always found it strange how strong of an anti-gun bias there is. I about flipped a gasket during a couple of lectures in med school about firearms, when the professors cited misleading information or jumped to conclusions they shouldn't have.
That being said, if you are experiencing suicidal thoughts or are seeing a psychiatrist or mental health professional for any reason, you should answer such questions truthfully. Doing otherwise is unfair to your physician, your loved ones, and yourself.
October 11th, 2009 04:03 PM
My doctor asks me everytime: "What are you carrying today ?"
Other firearm related question he asks me "Where can I find a decent price on an AR-15 ?"
That's mighty fine with me.
It really surprises me how people feel they have to answer every questions in a written questionnaire unless so obligated.
I usually leave many blank or NA.
When asked verbally I tend to talk a lot and not say much; bores the other person and they will not ask another question
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October 11th, 2009 04:17 PM
Does your doctor ask if you have a pool, did you drive to your appointment in a car, or do you eat red meat?
All these things statistically are much more dangerous than having a firearm in your house.
I like the NOYFB reply.
October 12th, 2009 12:57 PM
My doctor asked me if I had any guns in my house too. She then wanted to know what kind/caliber, where I went shooting, if I reloaded/hunted and if I could recommend a good carry holster. My kind of doctor!
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October 12th, 2009 02:08 PM
All due respect...
Originally Posted by Spoonee
Firearms accidents are not a common cause of mortality.
As an adult it is MY JOB to protect myself and my family with respect to the storage and handling of my firearms.
I have a tremendous amount of respect for anyone that can go through the rigors of becoming a doctor. I would never challenge your expertise in dealing with medical issues but I think it is a real stretch to put firearms ownership, storage and handling under the umbrella of "medical issues" that should be addressed by doctors. I could swallow a paperclip and choke on it, does that mean doctors are now going to get involved in the dispensing, storage and usage of paperclips.
This is somewhat tongue in cheek but it's to make a point. To follow the logic you've expressed doctors should be asking questions related to what power tools are kept in the home. The question about firearms on a medical questionnaire is IMHO nothing more then another expression of the nanny state mentality.
October 12th, 2009 02:36 PM
The wife and I had this conversation when we were looking a Dr for the little one. I told her if the Dr asks if there are any guns in the house (or if it was on a form), we would instantly leave. I refuse to let a doctor take care of my family that is so irrational that they disagree with self-defense.
October 12th, 2009 07:08 PM
I would have to answered FO. Just because I am so PC
October 12th, 2009 11:58 PM
Never have seen that on my Doctor's forms, but I have talked guns with him in his office while he was showing me the 3 deer, several ducks and the other animal mounts he has on his office walls. He also showed me his Kimber .45 he keeps in his desk while at work, it's on his belt the rest of the time, we took our CC classes from the same instructor. Folks like him make me glad I live in rural Arkansas.
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October 13th, 2009 11:34 AM
One of the instructor here conducts small group classes for just doctors -- as some want to keep it secret that they carry.
Originally Posted by samh
I'm just one root in a grassroots organization. No one should assume that I speak for the VCDL.
I am neither an attorney-at-law nor I do play one on television or on the internet. No one should assumes my opinion is legal advice.
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October 13th, 2009 01:54 PM
You may be an expert on what may/has killed people, but my military training makes it possible for you to learn how I did it.
Originally Posted by Spoonee
October 22nd, 2009 07:32 PM
Got asked the Gun In The House ? today--Update
I checked my mail today and I thought it was the results from my recent testing for the issues above. Well, it was the same form that I had filled out before. I have a physical scheduled for Nov. 6th and they wanted to be proactive and get the information. (Duh, they already have it). Nonetheless, I'm going to answer No on the form this time and see if my doc picks it up during the physical. I'm looking forward to a lively discussion.
Originally Posted by MP45Man
October 22nd, 2009 07:49 PM
There are a hundred or more things that could kill me, a score of which might be considered common. But accidental gunshot injury isn't one of them.
Originally Posted by Spoonee
With a belief that drilling into uncommon causes is your job, particularly if I feel that belief trumps my desire and right to choose my life's choices, you wouldn't be my physician, initially; nor for long, after making it clear. Fairly simply, what will get done is what we agree is in my best interest for my health, not what you unilaterally choose to think ... white coat or not.
As a physician, your job should be to improve the quality of life, not merely the delaying of death. A healer and client should be unified on this goal, if on nothing else.
BTW, I believe this holds true for anything, from medicine to troubles with the toilet. But, that's just me. YMMV.
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October 22nd, 2009 07:55 PM
Why not anwer with "what good will do at the house if I am here?
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October 24th, 2009 05:07 PM
good idea , I've done this b 4
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