Institutional Anti Gun/ Self-Defense Bias in Hollywood?

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    Institutional Anti Gun/ Self-Defense Bias in Hollywood?

    I got to thinking about this the other night while watching a movie.

    The people in Hollyweed might be stupid but they're not dumb. They know that movies make wonderful propaganda tools, and I really wonder if they don't put some of these myths into movies on purpose, as opposed to just being ignorant.

    Some of the common themes I see are.

    Automatic weapons widely available.

    Gun registration in places that don't have gun registration.

    Fugitives can get guns W/out a background check, easily

    "Cop Killer" bullets

    One of the most common myths I see (From "Shane" to "Billy Jack")
    is that self defense (especially armed self-defense) is wrong and some thing that "ordinary" people can't do.

    Another common theme I see is the idea that it's somehow honorable to take the escalating attacks of the villain W/out fighting back until some mythical line is crossed when the hero goes and kills everybody

    Although a lot of those movies are pretty accurate in depicting that the armed bad guys pretty much have their way W/ the unarmed peasantry until somebody gets tired of it and picks up a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    The people in Hollyweed might be stupid but they're not dumb. They know that movies make wonderful propaganda tools, and I really wonder if they don't put some of these myths into movies on purpose, as opposed to just being ignorant.
    No, it's not intentional. They really ARE that ignorant. The entire Hollywood culture believes that the average person can't defend themselves, and that only the government can keep people safe.

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    I believe most movie and TV show scripts are written out of this book. It provides many scenarios depicting firearms and firearms owners in the most derogatory ways possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msgt/ret View Post
    I believe most movie and TV show scripts are written out of this book. It provides many scenarios depicting firearms and firearms owners in the most derogatory ways possible.

    EIC | Entertainment Industries Council, Inc.
    Oh yeah... THAT ought to be a fun read!

    Thanks for the link. I'll use those to get my blood pressure up in the morning.
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    Yea, this one is a problem right here!
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    Emphasize that wielding a firearm in selfdefense
    may ironically increase one’s risk of death
    or injury by increasing the likelihood that the
    assailant will use his or her own weapon.
    ◆ Consider having a character use a gun in
    what he/she believes is self-defense only to be
    charged with murder or manslaughter because
    it’s determined that excessive or unjustified
    lethal force was deployed.
    ◆ Consider having characters successfully use
    alternatives to guns for self-defense, such as
    pepper spray or mace.
    ◆ If a character is offered a gun for self-protection
    or retaliation, consider having him or her
    refuse it as a bad idea that could just worsen
    the situation.
    ◆ Consider the reality that in self-defense,
    homeowners often freeze-up or tremble when
    trying to use a gun, rendering them unable to
    deploy it. Or show them as being too paralyzed
    by fear to even reach for the gun.
    ◆ Consider emphasizing that what the shooter
    thinks is self-defense may simply be an escalating
    confrontation between two people that led
    to a shooting; both sides may claim self-defense
    and neither side may be right.
    ◆ Exhibit alternate forms of household security
    when possible, such as alarms, dogs, lights
    triggered by movement, and so on. Consider
    making the point that, unlike guns, none of
    these are potentially lethal to household
    members themselves.
    ◆ Consider showing someone who is attempting
    to use a gun in self-defense being overpowered
    by their attacker who then uses the gun
    against him or her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msgt/ret View Post
    I believe most movie and TV show scripts are written out of this book. It provides many scenarios depicting firearms and firearms owners in the most derogatory ways possible.
    Never heard of it. Never even heard of the "Entertainment Industries Council". I have heard of the Prism Awards, but they were never anything special among the people I knew.

    Check out the officers on IMDB. Not exactly the movers & shakers of the industry.

    EIC aside, really, there ISN'T a concerted effort to portray guns and gun owners in any particular way. It's just a product of the mindset of the typical Hollywood liberal.

    That said, I almost feel like taking that book and making a movie EXACTLY the opposite :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random View Post
    EIC aside, really, there ISN'T a concerted effort to portray guns and gun owners in any particular way. It's just a product of the mindset of the typical Hollywood liberal.
    I agree.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NYcarry View Post
    Emphasize that wielding a firearm in selfdefense
    may ironically increase oneís risk of death
    or injury by increasing the likelihood that the
    assailant will use his or her own weapon.
    ◆ Consider having a character use a gun in
    what he/she believes is self-defense only to be
    charged with murder or manslaughter because
    itís determined that excessive or unjustified
    lethal force was deployed.
    ◆ Consider having characters successfully use
    alternatives to guns for self-defense, such as
    pepper spray or mace.
    ◆ If a character is offered a gun for self-protection
    or retaliation, consider having him or her
    refuse it as a bad idea that could just worsen
    the situation.
    ◆ Consider the reality that in self-defense,
    homeowners often freeze-up or tremble when
    trying to use a gun, rendering them unable to
    deploy it. Or show them as being too paralyzed
    by fear to even reach for the gun.
    ◆ Consider emphasizing that what the shooter
    thinks is self-defense may simply be an escalating
    confrontation between two people that led
    to a shooting; both sides may claim self-defense
    and neither side may be right.
    ◆ Exhibit alternate forms of household security
    when possible, such as alarms, dogs, lights
    triggered by movement, and so on. Consider
    making the point that, unlike guns, none of
    these are potentially lethal to household
    members themselves.
    ◆ Consider showing someone who is attempting
    to use a gun in self-defense being overpowered
    by their attacker who then uses the gun
    against him or her.
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