December 4th, 2009 12:59 AM
Buying my First gun, any suggestions?
so, I turn 21 this comming up year and instead of the useal Drunken vomitting ongoings most new 21 year olds go through, I'm using that special day to purchace my first handgun and obtain my licence. (maybe not All in the same week, but definitly within the same month)
so as this will be the first firearm I'll purchace I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on a good stable first handgun?
I've never owned of even operated a firearm before (other than air rifles, Co2 and such, I mostly prefer knives being previously too young to legally carry gun) so I want something...I guess a good way of putting it would be, with "training wheels" something afforadbale, easy to use, but still good for practical self defence.
I'm already looking into shooting ranges in my area and I've read and reviewed Firearm care and safty manuels, now all I need is a good idea of a first gun...
my plan thus far is just to visit local pawn shops until I find a sutible one...as I know nothing about guns...
December 4th, 2009 01:09 AM
First, let me commend you for your level of maturity at such a young age and showing that you have your priorities straight.
I think that you should find a decent gun shop/range and get some one-on-one training; rent a few handguns and start getting "comfortable" with them.
If I were to give you a suggestion for a first handgun, it would be a revolver due to the simplicity, reliability and, sometimes, affordability.
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December 4th, 2009 02:10 AM
Yep,shoot a few different guns,check prices on what they sell for so you don't end up paying $400.00 for a hi-point
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December 4th, 2009 02:47 AM
Two Basic Rules
- Fits your hand
- 9mm or bigger
As you analyze weapons, use the following:
- Be methodical about the process
- test fire as many different weapons as you can
- Read as many reviews as you can, so you can get some ideas on more subtle differences in types and models
- Develop of list of things you like and don't about the weapons you test
- Develop a list of what you need and what you don't in a weapon
- Look at prices
George H. Foster
December 4th, 2009 08:11 AM
This is on the lines of what I was going to say...
Originally Posted by dukalmighty
December 4th, 2009 10:35 AM
Now on to the meat and potatoes;
Take your time and do your research. Do not fall into the "it looks cool" trap. Far to many new shooters buy what looks good rather than what actually is. When you have a question, ASK! Right here is an awesome place to do that. You will get accurate and honest answers here.
When going into your local shops, be honest about your situation. Tell them it is your first gun, you just did or are about to turn 21 etc. Shops love newbies that are honest about there level of knowledge and that ask intelligent questions. DO NOT pretend you have knowledge that you do not.... you wont get anywhere. Shops hate the guy who pretends he knows everything. That guy will always get sub par service.
Stick with a major brand and with a model that has been around for awhile. You dont want your first pistol to be some manufactures basturn child that has no support from the manufacture or the aftermarket.
Do Not buy a micro or sub compact. You are asking for trouble at this point. Get some experience under your belt, then worry about the pocket rockets. There are plenty of mid size or full size guns out there to choose from. Start out with a bigger frame size, you will end up a better shooter because of it.
I highly recommend you forget the bigger calibers for now. If you want an semi auto, 9mm is the way to go. If its a revolver you're after, 38/357. There is nothing wrong with the bigger calibers down the road (so no caliber wars please) but, the 9mm or 38 are cheaper to shoot and you will be able to shoot more. They are also a little more forgiving with the typical newbie problems. Iron out all the newb problems shooting cheaper ammo. Throwing a 9mm low and left is a lot cheaper and easier to fix than throwing 50AE low and left.
Thats about all I can think of right now. I'm sure I'll add stuff later.
December 4th, 2009 10:48 AM
I agree with six and also add that some gun stores employees have their own " agenda". You need to get a variety of opinions from different sources before making a commitment.
P.S. Most pawn shops are overpriced and ill informed about handguns and weapons in general.
December 4th, 2009 11:24 AM
Get yourself a high quality .22 (Ruger, Browning, Sig, Walther, etc...)and a ton of .22 LR's then go shoot a couple of thousand rounds.
You can get a Full Brick 1000 Rds. of 22 LR for under $40@ most places including WallyMart.
A CHEAP case of 1000 9 mm FMJ's will run you over $300and thats a GOOD deal!
PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE!
BTW / Welcome to the club!
December 4th, 2009 11:34 AM
Like RebelRabbi said, get a .22 first if you've no experience with guns. After putting 1000s of rounds through it try other out (via friends, gun clubs, store ranges, etc.) and basically enjoy the ride.
December 4th, 2009 12:51 PM
Start light with a 22cal. (My first handgun was a Ruger mk2 Government model back in the early 80's I still have that gun, and love it even today!)A 22 Caliber well teach you the basics and is by far more economical to shoot then anything else on the market today.Then move up to something larger later...
Good Luck .
Better to have and not need then to need and not have!!!!
December 4th, 2009 01:05 PM
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December 4th, 2009 01:16 PM
Hahaha... You beat me to it by this " much.
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December 4th, 2009 01:34 PM
well other than a pawn shop, I'm sorry to say that there are not really any stores in my general area that DO sell guns, not handguns anyways...not even my local Wally world carries Guns, not even rifles. they did once upon a time, but for some legal mumbo jumbo or something of the sort the store has removed all leathal weapons from thier shelves...
from the looks of it a good .22 seems to be the general option here as a good starter gun, I was personally looking into maybe a beretta 9mm as my uncle had a similar gun that was pretty stable and reliable for him. as far as cost goes .22 is best, but from what I've HEARD (not know) they have little more kick than a high powered Co2, of which i have servarl...I'm not 100% unexperienced, I'm a great shot, just haven't used an Actual gun before, lol.
I've always been a sucker for a good looking revolver, I just don't want a snubby, I can't stand the look of them, and I know it's function before fashion, but still...
I aprechiate all the advice, my 21st is still a bit of a ways off so I've got some time to look around, I may go ahead and purchace a gun before then if I find a sutiable one as it's legal for me to OWN if not Carry a hand gun.
December 4th, 2009 01:46 PM
I disagree with the .22 opinions. Although the .22 is a great training and learning round, I would say that your first handgun should be a defensive handgun, and to me the .22 isn't that.
I am not a big fan of the 9mm round, but it is a better choice for a defensive handgun. It will (as SIXTO said) give you a less expensive round to practice with, yet still be enough to be effective if needed in a defense situation.
Lots of good advice here, shoot what you can, decide what you like, decide what manual of arms you want and stick to it.
Best of luck, sigmanluke
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December 4th, 2009 01:47 PM
*WARNING* BEFORE you go shooting, purchase ear and eye protection! USE THEM EVERYTIME YOU SHOOT! HEARING DAMAGE IS PERMANANT AND ACCUMULATIVE.
The posters advocating a 9mmP or larger are thinking of a first defensive, or first concealed carry gun, not a FIRST handgun. Your very FIRST handgun should be a .22LR revolver, either single action or double action. Ideally, you want one with a six inch or six and a half inch barrel--this will help you with placing shots precisely, which will be encouraging for you to keep shooting, as you will be successful in accurately hitting your target. A shorter handgun is handier, but harder for a newbie to shoot.
Perhaps an ideal beginners handgun is the Stainless Steel New Model Super Single Six Convertible by Ruger (KNR6).
Ruger New Model Single-Six Convertible Single-Action Revolver Models
It comes with a .22LR cylinder for target shooting and plinking (shooting cans) and also a .22 Magnum cylinder that you can switch to for a little more "punch" if you take up handgun hunting (out of a revolver, the .22 Magnum has about the performance of a .22LR out of a full size rifle). Getting the gun in Stainless Steel will help you have a gun that is more forgiving as far as care goes, as you begin to learn how to care for your gun. You will never "outgrow" this gun, you will love to shoot it when you are an old man. Now, that isn't to say that you won't want to shoot other guns, or buy other guns, because of course you will--different tools for different jobs. But, this particular handgun will always provide you with good accuracy and above all FUN!! And a .22LR is always a "cheap date". Ammo for a .22LR will likely always be the cheapest ammo you can shoot--I think the days when you could reload a .38 Spl. for about the same cost as .22LR cartridges are now over.
Best wishes to you in your future life of shooting enjoyment! Always remember though, SAFETY FIRST!
ETA: I reread your original post. IMO, a first handgun is not really compatible with a defensive handgun. You have to learn the basics of handgun shooting first, and the best way to do that is with the .22LR. Now you can kill someone with a .22LR, as shot placement is the most important factor in defensive shooting, but it is not the ideal caliber for a defensive gun. Once you have your initial training done with a .22LR, then you can look at getting something different. For home defense you are better off with a .223/5.56 caliber carbine loaded with a fast fragmenting cartridge like the Hornady 60 grain TAP round than a handgun, as pistol bullets are more likely to penetrate the walls and hit someone you don't want to hit. For concealed carry, anything .380 ACP and on up in caliber and power, depending on how you will carry it, should be good. 9mmP is a good "minimum" caliber, but if your lifestyle won't work with that big a gun, then a Ruger LCP or Kel-Tec P3AT in .380 ACP or a S&W "snubby" in .38 Spl. is better than nothing.
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