While reading some Note's on Handloads and Group sizes from a shooting trip earlier in the year i came across a note to myself to make a post on Recoil or how it feels to you.
What brings this up is where i was seeing people saying that the 1911 45 recoiled to much for them i found this odd as i started on the 45 but let me post my thoughts.
I started my range session with a S&W 627PC V-comp
Shooting some light 38Sp round these are real tame in about any 38 even a 2"snub just a plinker.
So i put about 100 of them down range and took a few min break shot another 50 So then i decided to break out the 1911 45 Springer loaded
First Mag i thought boy this does recoil for someone who isn't used to it i hadn't been shooting 45 in awhile in a auto just in my 625.
I can see how someone switching from a wheelie to a auto 45 will say recoil is to much the loads i was running in the 45 were full power round.
At that time just 7 shell's i switched to the 625 4" just to see how it felt perceived recoil was less than the 1911 well just seems something funny here.
So i did some Digging
625 Weight 43 oz
627 Weight 47 oz
1911 Weight 38 oz
Ahh we have quite a weight change even among the
the 45's Then i got to thinking about reciprocating mass
The wheelie while heavier doesn't really move during firing . 1911 does that Big heavy slide is coming straight back at you and seems to add to the recoil.
Now I'm not Recoil sensitive by any means as most know i do enjoy shooting the big 500 didn't enjoy the 454 as much but was still fun
Not the above explains the 38-45 thing i think most people feel the difference in as a 38 wheelie will 95% of the time out weigh a 1911 looks though the smith catalog and old colt catalog to see that was mostly true except air weight and such.
But what about my hatred of the Smith Wesson 40?
I have complained many times i don't like it for the Muzzle whip again that would be perceived by me other shooters don't seem to notice it must be that too light of guns are what i have been shooting it out of the glock and sigma i have shot a sig but only 13 rounds or so and cant really tell what i think of the sig as absorbing recoil.
The little Kahr was really squirrelly in my hands and my dads smaller hands
I would much rather touch off a 440 grain 500 round than the 40's i dislike the caliber and guns that much. Even though i have tried i cant control the guns for fast follow up shots..
Read this thread for more on my dislike of the 40 http://www.combatcarry.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=6856
So as I'm long winded thats what i think one why certain people say something is worse in certain caliber
the way i load my 38 and 45's they usually run with in 100fps of each other and i could notice the difference also quick side Mary(the old ball and Chain) Will shoot a 1911 45 all day and a 38 all day wont touch the 9mm Recoil is too much.. Also will shoot a 38 super which runs pretty dang close FPS wise to a 9mm all day but don't like the 9mm
Again i think it is a perceived recoil think the Glock 17 weighs a lot less than a 1911 which my 38 super is but she prefers the 38 super Go figure i think its just she don't like anything that isn't in a 1911 platform
Also i happen to hear the 38-45 thing from newer shooters who all they have shot is 22 and 38
Guess i was luckily as a kid to be able to shoot what i wanted and not learning now that i am 30
What brings this up is where i was seeing people saying that the 1911 45 recoiled to much for them i found this odd as i started on the 45 but let me post my thoughts.
I started my range session with a S&W 627PC V-comp
Shooting some light 38Sp round these are real tame in about any 38 even a 2"snub just a plinker.
So i put about 100 of them down range and took a few min break shot another 50 So then i decided to break out the 1911 45 Springer loaded
First Mag i thought boy this does recoil for someone who isn't used to it i hadn't been shooting 45 in awhile in a auto just in my 625.
I can see how someone switching from a wheelie to a auto 45 will say recoil is to much the loads i was running in the 45 were full power round.
At that time just 7 shell's i switched to the 625 4" just to see how it felt perceived recoil was less than the 1911 well just seems something funny here.
So i did some Digging
625 Weight 43 oz
627 Weight 47 oz
1911 Weight 38 oz
Ahh we have quite a weight change even among the
the 45's Then i got to thinking about reciprocating mass
The wheelie while heavier doesn't really move during firing . 1911 does that Big heavy slide is coming straight back at you and seems to add to the recoil.
Now I'm not Recoil sensitive by any means as most know i do enjoy shooting the big 500 didn't enjoy the 454 as much but was still fun
Not the above explains the 38-45 thing i think most people feel the difference in as a 38 wheelie will 95% of the time out weigh a 1911 looks though the smith catalog and old colt catalog to see that was mostly true except air weight and such.
But what about my hatred of the Smith Wesson 40?
I have complained many times i don't like it for the Muzzle whip again that would be perceived by me other shooters don't seem to notice it must be that too light of guns are what i have been shooting it out of the glock and sigma i have shot a sig but only 13 rounds or so and cant really tell what i think of the sig as absorbing recoil.
The little Kahr was really squirrelly in my hands and my dads smaller hands
I would much rather touch off a 440 grain 500 round than the 40's i dislike the caliber and guns that much. Even though i have tried i cant control the guns for fast follow up shots..
Read this thread for more on my dislike of the 40 http://www.combatcarry.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=6856
So as I'm long winded thats what i think one why certain people say something is worse in certain caliber
the way i load my 38 and 45's they usually run with in 100fps of each other and i could notice the difference also quick side Mary(the old ball and Chain) Will shoot a 1911 45 all day and a 38 all day wont touch the 9mm Recoil is too much.. Also will shoot a 38 super which runs pretty dang close FPS wise to a 9mm all day but don't like the 9mm
Again i think it is a perceived recoil think the Glock 17 weighs a lot less than a 1911 which my 38 super is but she prefers the 38 super Go figure i think its just she don't like anything that isn't in a 1911 platform
Also i happen to hear the 38-45 thing from newer shooters who all they have shot is 22 and 38
Guess i was luckily as a kid to be able to shoot what i wanted and not learning now that i am 30