Really wish that people would stop refering to their firearms as weapons!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreyGhost View Post
    Weapon as defined on the Merrium-Webster website.

    Main Entry: 1weap·on
    Pronunciation: \ˈwe-pən\
    Function: noun
    Etymology: Middle English wepen, from Old English wǣpen; akin to Old High German wāffan weapon, Old Norse vāpn
    Date: before 12th century
    1 : something (as a club, knife, or gun) used to injure, defeat, or destroy
    2 : a means of contending against another

    Sure looks to me like my Glock is a weapon! And if it's good enough for Merrium-Webster it's good enough for me!
    Using this definition given above, a gun need not be a weapon. It could be sports equipment when used to put holes in paper instead of to injure, defeat, or destroy and contend against another.

    However, it is what it is, and most of us carry one because we may use it as a weapon. Intent counts. It counts for whether or not a baseball bat is sports equipment or a weapon, and it should count for determining if a gun is a weapon.

    However, in modern everyday language usage, law, and common understanding, a gun is a weapon---even if it is never used to "contend against another," and even if the possessor has no plan whatsoever to use it at such.

    E.g., a very expensive competition rifle = sports equipment. But it is still legally and in common parlance, a weapon.
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    So can it be a Tool in witch great bodily injury or harm may occure.........





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    The sanctimonious circumlocutions of some who to strive to avoid offending the hypocritical sensitivities of politically correct types is deplorable.

    Weapons it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrm View Post
    The main point that I was trying to make is that people who refer to their firearm as a weapon just emmulates the mindset that they are dangerous to everyone. A weapon is anything that a person with the ability to choose right and wrong uses as such. (whether that be for defense or not). I guess I should not have said that I correct everyone, cause I dont (not good for business) but it still steams me.
    It may emulate the mindset to use the word weapon, but using a substitute word for what a firearm really is (a weapon) you are playing into the mindset. To me, playing into the mindset is worse than offending or scaring someone with the word "weapon". Also, the more someone is exposed to something, the more comfortable or used to it they become.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrm View Post
    This is only my opinion but everytime I hear someone refer to a pistol or rifle as a weapon I try to correct them and let them know that the pencil I carry in my pocket is a weapon also. People dont realize they are just fueling the mentality that firearms kill people instead of people using "weapons" kill people.

    Anyone else have any thoughts on this.
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    The Pencil was not designed to kill / injure. A Gun is designed to kill / injure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsee11789 View Post
    The Pencil was not designed to kill / injure. A Gun is designed to kill / injure.
    Not all guns are necessarily designed to kill or injure, though they can be used that way. Moreover, far far more rounds are fired for recreation than for defense. The example of a bolt action, single fire, .22lr designed for competition shooting comes to mind. It was designed to very accurately put holes in pieces of paper, not to kill or injure. Could such a gun be used as a weapon? Perhaps in the hands of a sniper, but it isn't really designed for that purpose.

    There are quite a few folks who manage to obtain (legally) full automatic weapons. While it would at first appear that these are solely designed to kill or injure, they are actually used---in civilian life (criminals not counted) for fun and sport.

    Now, the gun in my pocket which I carry for potential defensive act, is a potential weapon. When I am at the range, it is sports equipment.

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    Lay out on a table a sword, a crossbow and a gun and ask someone to pick out up the weapon. They get to choose only one object. Which will it be?

    A weapon is a class of objects, it is not the descriptive term for a gun, it is a term for what it can be used for, not what it is.

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    In my daily quest to be as politically correct as possible, I no longer call my handguns "weapons" because I dont want to offend anyone.

    Now, I just call them "hand held killing devices" so as to be more accurate.


    I would hate for any one to misunderstand what they really are.

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    A weapon is a class of objects, it is not the descriptive term for a gun, it is a term for what it can be used for, not what it is.
    Yes -- and when we refuse to use the word "weapon" to describe the firearms that we carry, we agree with the antis that it is wrong and ungood for ordinary people to deliberately and purposefully plan to defend themselves if attacked.

    I won't concede that. My firearm is carried as a weapon, and there's nothing wrong with that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrm View Post
    This is only my opinion but everytime I hear someone refer to a pistol or rifle as a weapon I try to correct them and let them know that the pencil I carry in my pocket is a weapon also. People dont realize they are just fueling the mentality that firearms kill people instead of people using "weapons" kill people.

    Anyone else have any thoughts on this.

    OK....From now on I will call all my weapons cupcakes and ding-dongs


    Get real you sound like one of the limp wrist sheeple; don't want to frighten anyone by open carrying and calling a weapon a weapon. Why don't we just beat them all into plow shears while we are at it?

    The .45 I carry for personal protection is a WEAPON plain pure and simple.

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    The last time I checked, all of my guns sure looked like weapons to me.

    Maybe I better go check them again just to make sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrm View Post
    This is only my opinion but everytime I hear someone refer to a pistol or rifle as a weapon I try to correct them...
    Anyone else have any thoughts on this.
    To me, not calling them weapons just plays into the anti's arguments that we only need guns that are appropriate for "hunting or sporting purposes".

    WASHINGTON STATE CONSTITUTION
    ARTICLE 1 SECTION 24 RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS. The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired...

    Sounds to me like I should be carrying weapons. Hunting and sporting uses are a means to keep the skills sharp.

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