What Drives Me Bonkers...
This is a discussion on What Drives Me Bonkers... within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; is letting the slide on an auto-loader slam shut by hitting the release on an empty chamber. I was told by a salesman when I ...
February 23rd, 2010 04:33 AM
February 23rd, 2010 04:33 AM
February 23rd, 2010 04:43 AM
I was never taught not to do this, but a couple years ago when I got my first glock I read a story about the slide lock levers breaking when used in this manner. It was something about how the FBI (I think?) trained agents to hit the button to release the slide on a new mag, and that resulted in a lot of failures over time.
Ever since then, I have avoided using the slide lock lever to return the slide to battery on any pistol, loaded or not. Even if the possibility of damage is remote, I don't see the point in taking the chance. It is just as quick and easy to yank back on the slide when reloading, or ease it forward when not firing.
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February 23rd, 2010 05:19 AM
No-no. this isnt what I was meaning. I use the slide release while reloading, sure. I dont know if it harms the release or not. I am talking about letting it drop on an empty chamber. This drives me nuts. Brass with cushion the slide and maybe slow it down so its not as painful. It also makes a different sound. Like I said, its like slamming the front door to your house. Makes my skin crawl!
February 23rd, 2010 05:43 AM
i do it all the time. its how i dry fire :-D
February 23rd, 2010 07:18 AM
Closing on an open chamber won't hurt anything....won't damage anything. The brass doesn't slow anything down.
However, I know what you are saying. You're in a gun shop looking at guns...and every time you hear the slide close, you're wondering if something has been dropped in the chamber...because you read on the internet how someone dropped a bullet in the chamber "to see how it fit".......thus, keeping your head on a swivel...
I guess it's one of those gunshop/show etiquette-things...
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February 23rd, 2010 08:00 AM
Doing it a few times probably won't damage anything. Doing it a lot may damage something.
When I installed the hammer, sear and disconnect in my 1911 I slammed the slide closed on an empty chamber twice to see if the sear would release. It didn't so its all good there. Otherwise I pull the slide back, let forward half way then release.
There is something about firing 4,200 thirty millimeter rounds/min that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
February 23rd, 2010 08:11 AM
Im with you drives me nuts. And yes having a loaded mag in the gun absorbs some of the energy of the slide slaming shut, it is grabbing a bullet and putting it in the chamber.
Oh yeah and what Sigguy said Mag-Clip another thing that drives me nuts.
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February 23rd, 2010 12:10 PM
All of my semi autos let the slide slam shut every time I shoot them.
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February 23rd, 2010 01:33 PM
I've been told that on some pistols it can damage the extractor.
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February 23rd, 2010 01:40 PM
I have never been taught this was a bad thing. Haven't ever worried about it. It didn't seem to make any difference in a Browning BDM 9mm that I had for nearly 40K rounds, in which frequent dry-fire exercises involved this sort of treatment. Didn't seem to have any effect, pro or con.
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February 23rd, 2010 01:45 PM
I read this thread with interest as I just DID THIS with a Kahr at a gun shop. The salesman politely (but firmly) told me to not do it again. He probably went into the back room and screamed.
I had not heard before not to do that - and not all gun store guys will tell you not to, in fact some do it themselves.
Thanks for the post.
(one more vote for revolvers)
February 23rd, 2010 01:52 PM
I suppose you could chalk this up to 'gun ettiquete'.
I know a bunch of crusty old vets who will let theirs slam with regularity. 'Always have, always will.
It just makes sense to be gentle with something that you don't own, and don't do things that draw attention to yourself.
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February 23rd, 2010 01:55 PM
I completely agree, the gun is designed to function like that, if your afraid that letting the slide "slam" forward will damage the gun then I recommend you get a better gun. There are many "myths" about this subject, (my armorer at work believes them too) but sense I've completed the Glock armorer course I tell him he's full of it, other manufacturers my differ but I doubt it.
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February 23rd, 2010 02:04 PM
I always capture the slide between my thumb and middle finger to allow just enough action without the slam. Just seems like the right thing to do with a pistol that doesn't belong to me. Am I worried about mine if I was to do it, probably not, but it's just a habit not to let it slam shut. I respectfully disagree that the action isn't slowed down by chambering a round. It absolutely is. To the degree, who knows. I'm sure it changes from pistol to pistol and is based on the recoil spring itself.
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February 23rd, 2010 02:26 PM
To me, it is akin to flipping the cylinder shut on a wheelgun.
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