My Wife Handles Situation with 9mm

My Wife Handles Situation with 9mm

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    My Wife Handles Situation with 9mm

    Wifey and I ( along with two daughters (8&9 yrs old) live way back in the sticks on my family property. It is a very peaceful and beautiful place where visitors are extememley rare. My nearest neighbors lives almost 3 miles way and the road that leads to our house runs up over a mountain and dead ends at my garage.

    There are 4 different "No tresspassing" signs the last mile into my house where the road is for solely our use. There is no way you could "accidentally" end up at my house.

    A few evenings ago while I was at work, wifey and the girls were eating dinner and a white van pulled into my parking area in front of the garage and just sat there. Wifey grabbed the M&P and told the girls to watch out the window and if anything happens dial 911.

    She went out and asked the guy, who was still sitting in the drivers seat, If she could help him. She had the M&P in her hand behind her back. By this time my two very large and protective farm dogs are right by her side ( they know something was not right) she asked again if she could help him and he said no, and that he was lost. He then got out of the van and stood there for a second looking around. (wifey said it was very strange) She told him that he needed to get in his van and leave. He still stood there. She was roughly 30 ft from him at the time. He then started walking towards her! The dogs started growling at this time. She then put the M&P in front of her waist ( not pointing it at him, just showing him she has a gun) and told him to stop and get in his dam van and leave right now! He stopped dead in his tracks and did exactly that.

    This guy was NOT armed but what if he hadn't stopped walking towards her after she told him to stop? Afterall, she was outside our residence in the parking area. But I mean, there she was in the middle of nowhere with two small kids in the house watching what is going down with cellphone in hand.
    I think she did a great job and I am totally proud of how she handled herself. I asked her what she was planning to do if he continued towards her. She said she planned on yelling at him to stop one more time with the weapon pointed at him and if he didn't she was more than willing to protect herself and our kids. Yes, he was unarmed and yes they were outside in the middle of the day but hey, atleast all three of them would be around for the jury trial.....


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    Idiotic if she didn't take a camera and video and get his license plate and call it in as a prowler. He'll prowl and do it again and get away because your wife was focusing on the wrong thing. ID the BG, first and foremost. If she had his picture it would go a long way to deter him.

    Good that she's safe, but you guys need to think this kind of thing through and gather the needed data to prevent a recurrence.

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    I think here first and foremost concern was the safety of herself and the kids. Not ID'ing this guy or the van. We have thought this through, that is why we have a good collection of firearms. . I'm glad she chose the gun over the camera. I don't think a camera would have been as much of a deterent like the M&P was.

    If she would have turned this guy in as a prowler (in the middle of the day) they would have simply blown her off. But, even if they did catch him down the road he could have easily said he was simply lost. Which he did state to her originally.
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    I think she did fine. It would have been nice to have some sort of id, but that is secondary to self & kids protection.

    How does she know that he was not armed?
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    I agree with the OP.

    If I only had time to grab a gun or a camera, I'm going for the gun every time.
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    What about calling 911 before she leaves the house - possible trespassing? Maybe have the girls write down the license plate number and other identifying details.
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    Any body can armchair something like this, and I dont want to do that. But my suggestion next time would be to stay inside, make sure the doors are secured, get the phone and weapon, and observe their activity. Call the police if they seem to be up to no good, call you, and stand by. If they breech the locks and enter, sende"em to hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ktm rider View Post
    I'm glad she chose the gun over the camera. I don't think a camera would have been as much of a deterent like the M&P was.

    If she would have turned this guy in as a prowler (in the middle of the day) they would have simply blown her off. But, even if they did catch him down the road he could have easily said he was simply lost. Which he did state to her originally.
    You're not following me. I didn't say camera INSTEAD of the M&P. If you turn someone in who CLEARLY violated several no trespassing signs, then he'd be on the cops radar even if they did nothing. As it is you can do NOTHING - can't ID him, don't know his license plate, so all you can do now in the ever important aftermath is HOPE. These kinds of people - daring, confrontational are driven by the 'thrill' and will often up the ante and return armed with the knowledge that they have probably not been ID'd or turned in and they know your wife has a GUN which they want to steal/take.

    So, get a pic, the license plate and ALSO have the gun ready to deploy. In fact, I'd have said stay in the house and defend in place while using a good zoom to get pics out the window, especially since you KNOW he was a predator (normal people don't do what he did). Listen to your fear but be able to follow up, which she didn't really do; this BG essentially got a FREEBIE. ;)

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    she did fine as it work out.

    i can but suggest that you & she work together to understand distance between people as it relates to their action and your reaction.
    it is frighting how fast someone can be 'there' and than on top of you.
    it is the proverbial ' blink -of-an-eye'

    should there be a next time the gun goes to low ready when they step out of the van.
    cause how do you know he is not armed?
    i train that low ready is half way between me and them and the safety is off and my finger is inside the trigger guard.

    stay in house.....
    like a mommy bear she protects her children--keep danger from getting close to them.
    a head dock would have language to describe her actions, she went with her gut; outside

    and did fine.
    as for pictures she can describe plenty to a police artist if they cared to sit with her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BadgerJ View Post
    You're not following me. I didn't say camera INSTEAD of the M&P. If you turn someone in who CLEARLY violated several no trespassing signs, then he'd be on the cops radar even if they did nothing. As it is you can do NOTHING - can't ID him, don't know his license plate, so all you can do now in the ever important aftermath is HOPE. These kinds of people - daring, confrontational are driven by the 'thrill' and will often up the ante and return armed with the knowledge that they have probably not been ID'd or turned in and they know your wife has a GUN which they want to steal/take.

    So, get a pic, the license plate and ALSO have the gun ready to deploy. In fact, I'd have said stay in the house and defend in place while using a good zoom to get pics out the window, especially since you KNOW he was a predator (normal people don't do what he did). Listen to your fear but be able to follow up, which she didn't really do; this BG essentially got a FREEBIE. ;)
    I could not disagree more here. Photography is not the priority. The only pics I would want to see, is those of him taken by the coroner of his dead ass body. Trying to do too much when you are frightened will lead to mistakes that can get your family killed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    Any body can armchair something like this, and I dont want to do that. But my suggestion next time would be to stay inside, make sure the doors are secured, get the phone and weapon, and observe their activity. Call the police if they seem to be up to no good, call you, and stand by. If they breech the locks and enter, sende"em to hell.
    That was my suggestion after thinkng about it also. But she said if it was dark she would have went with that option for sure.

    I live in a VERY rural area so the response time for the Police is usually no less than 30 minutes if your lucky. You have to prepared to take care of yourself for that amount of time.

    Same with an Ambulance. I cut my thumb off with a saw a few yrs back and that 30 minute wait was something I could not do. I drove myself to the hospital with blood everywhere inside my truck. Humorous now, not so much then. That's just life out in the boonies i guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    I could not disagree more here. Photography is not the priority. The only pics I would want to see, is those of him taken by the coroner of his dead ass body. Trying to do too much when you are frightened will lead to mistakes that can get your family killed.
    You make good points. But in this case it would have been much better to stay inside, and call 911 and get a photo of the guy and the plate through the window and THEN if she must, go outside. She didn't know if there was anyone else in the truck. It would have been difficult to prove a good shoot also, if he wasn't armed but still advanced. NOW, they have nothing to go on. These kinds of people like to return.

    Some of you guys (whom I do like and respect) are just too damn hopped up on the idea of killing people, imo. Get data, file charges, have something other than bravado.

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    Every situation is different...she stood her ground, the 'strange dude' left, and all are safe. Good job on her part!
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    I understand, I live in the sticks, and have all my life. The plan I just suggested is the one in place for my house and wife. The advantage to holding the high ground (house) is tremendous. After she calls me, the intruders will be lucky if the police get there before either I get there, or Mrs Gman gets them. Let them come to you,walk into your field of fire, and cut them to pieces. Make sure the kids are accounted for at all times.
    Ignorance is a long way from stupid, but left unchecked, can get there real fast.

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    Sounds like he stood there like that looking around because he was working up the courage to act.
    He probably thought "oh it's just a girl, no biggie!"
    I guess he FOUND OUT OTHERWISE!

    I'm glad everything worked out OK.

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