Major victory with family
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November 17th, 2011 04:12 PM
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Major victory with family
For the last 18 months my two sisters and their families have been strongly against my carrying in their homes. The thing that bugged me the most about this is the fact that both homes have firearms in them (one has a Ruger Mini 14 his dad left to him and the other is the brother in law that took me hunting for the first time, took me shooting for the first time & has a handful of long guns & an AMAZING Franchi 12 gauge.) Why I never put 2 & 2 together & tried this vein in the past is beyond me... Anyway...
I had a major breakthrough today. My eldest sister expressed that she is not scared of a firearm, but rather the potential for it going off through no persons fault. She did not care about the statistics or any rational point I could make. I asked a simple question: "So would it still bother you if when in your home I carried without a round in the chamber?" I was shocked. She gave it the stamp of approval. She told me she would advocate to my other sister and would sway the rest of the family to allow it in their homes.
I am not fond of not having a round in the chamber, but I will count this as absolutely a compromise I can live with and not feel that my rights have been upset in the least.
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November 17th, 2011 04:12 PM
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November 17th, 2011 04:16 PM
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Nice! It's progress and that is good. I've noticed that my spouse was initially shocked I carried in the home ...now it's no big deal and she brags about it to our friends.
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November 17th, 2011 04:24 PM
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it is good that you have identified the problem.
but the more you handle a gun, the greater the chance for an 'event'
ask the pilot who discharged his Sig in the cabin because of bad rules--and lousy luck
no, i do not mean 'luck' as in "mishandling a firearm" may cause it to fire.
it is loaded when i put it on and it is loaded if i need it and when i take it off.
it is in a good holster and if i do not touch it all day; that is a normal day.
i would not unload a gun in a car before i went into someones home.
off-loading it in the confines of a vehicle may be cause to sweep yourself or others
or being observed by others in the vicinity who may call in a MWAG
and than it must be charged when you leave later and put back on your person.
remove it still in the holster and lock it in the car or not go in.
as i've noticed about others--that they do not always do as i think they will nor often as they say they will.
this not only makes life interesting, it makes it dangerous too.
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November 17th, 2011 04:24 PM
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wow. That is major progress. Is your sister going to check your weapon to make sure that no round is chambered?
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November 17th, 2011 04:49 PM
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Im glad that you identified the root of her fear, but I personally do not see it as a victory just yet. The purpose of a self defense handgun is to have it ready, you know this already. You need to address the cause of the fear. Guns just dont go off, again you know this already. Keep working at it, Im sure you will have your victory, right now I see it as a hurdle that has been jumped.....Just my .02
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November 17th, 2011 05:04 PM
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My brothers, sisters, their families and my in-laws don't know I carry.
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November 17th, 2011 05:17 PM
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I agree with zonker1986
Keep the round chambered so that you are not having to load/unload repeatedly, she won't know, yet she will still feel "safer".
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November 17th, 2011 05:27 PM
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It's a start, but I'd keep at it!
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November 17th, 2011 08:44 PM
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Switch to a revolver with an empty chamber under the hammer... Same "effect" but no need to bring to battery, just pull the trigger. DA of course. Carry a New York reload in the same condition.
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The Gift of Fear by Gavin De Becker
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November 17th, 2011 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by
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wow. That is major progress. Is your sister going to check your weapon to make sure that no round is chambered?

She guaranteed me that she would take me at my word. As a result I will be good to my word. Trust & faith are something I do not take lightly. It is the best I can possibly hope for out of my family. It was the difference between me going to family gatherings & not.
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain."
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November 17th, 2011 09:15 PM
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And who's going to check the gun to see if a round is really in there or not ?? LOL. But, I would honor their request if it met an agreeable solution.
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November 17th, 2011 11:44 PM
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I think that is really what it is about Eagleks. Mom is 76 and dad died earlier this year at 76. If they are willing to bend a little bit & that means I am going to be able to carry around them, I will take it.
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain."
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