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    If the CLEO sign-off is eliminated, I'd invest in a threaded barrel for my m&p .45, and a 10/22
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    The NFA Trust is the way to go regardless of if your CLEO will sign or not. You might also want one for your estate planning too.

    As for use in HD, just imagine cranking off a 150+ decibel shot inside your house. I'm looking at a suppressed SBR in 9mm early next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanis View Post
    I've been reading that now in MI (where I live) it is legal to own a silencer / suppressor. Hearing protection is a major consideration for me, and so, my interest has inceased. I have a question on the cost involved. I believe there is a $200 transfer tax, are there any other permits, fees, taxes, etc? I assume a threaded barrel would be required ($120 to $150). Then the purchase of a suppressor. I don't have a solid understanding of brands or shops to consider. Is the $750 to $1000 range correct? Anyone share some ideas on what to buy. Then lastly, would anyone consider a suppressor for home SD. I think if used in SD, it might be like having a barrel with smile and wait for flash printed on the end of your barrel. It would save ob hearing, as you would be shooting indoors, however in a SD situation, added length would be a disadvantage, and more urgent considerations than hearing. Suppressor use comes down to hearing protection when practicing. Will do a search on the site, but would not mind reading some current opinions. Thank you in advance.
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    If you ever shoot a demo, you'll never be the same.

    The best thing I ever did was get some demo units for people to shoot. Once they shoot, they are hooked, those cans sell themselves.
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    This is very high on my list of wants. I have an FNH45 Tactical, a Sig 239 9mm with threaded barrel, and a Ruger 22 with threaded barrel. I am now ready for my gun trust and then the cans. I can not wait to take the next steps. I am doing the research and hope to find a solution. Anyone use or know much about Surefire suppressors? They just got the military contract.
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    Surefires suppressors are good.

    With that being said, they are way overpriced and they havent been keeping up with the rest of the industry.

    For instance, their .22 can sells for 439 and 499, others on the market sound better, are smaller and sell from 200-300 bucks.
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    Just as a thought, you might consider amplified electronic shooting ear muffs for home defense rather than a suppressor. Amplified ear muffs let you hear the bad guys moving around your house. Amplified electronic ear muffs let you hear the intruding bad guys whispering to one another or brushing their clothes against the walls or shuffling their feet on the carpet. Amplified ear muffs let you keep your hearing after you touch off one or more rounds inside an enclosed room such as a bedroom. Even really pricey amplified ear muffs are less expensive than a suppressor, a new threaded barrel, and the required tax stamp. Amplified electronic ear muffs can be had sometime between today or later this week via mail order.


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    Who in there right mind, is going to take time to put them on and adjust them? Not me.
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    I shot suppressed MP5's when I was in swat. Wickedly fun is all I got to say! And tactically advantageous in some situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcclarke View Post
    Just as a thought, you might consider amplified electronic shooting ear muffs for home defense rather than a suppressor. Amplified ear muffs let you hear the bad guys moving around your house. Amplified electronic ear muffs let you hear the intruding bad guys whispering to one another or brushing their clothes against the walls or shuffling their feet on the carpet. Amplified ear muffs let you keep your hearing after you touch off one or more rounds inside an enclosed room such as a bedroom. Even really pricey amplified ear muffs are less expensive than a suppressor, a new threaded barrel, and the required tax stamp. Amplified electronic ear muffs can be had sometime between today or later this week via mail order.


    We now return you to the original thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard View Post
    Guys, thanks for this thread. A suppressor isn't something high on the list, but I certainly like the idea of not going deaf in an emergency- also of not being momentarily stunned by your own gun's sound.
    I assumed that the shock and awe of a .45 or shotgun going off was a good thing against BGs, even if you should miss, you made your point.

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    I'd like one for home defense on my USP. The only thing that concerns me is the portrayal of suppressors to a jury, and the fact that often when firearms are confiscated, a lot of the time, you never get it back. I'd hate to see a $1000 suppressor plus a near $1000 gun and $200 barrel go away and never come back. Sure, my life is worth more than $2200, but that would suck.

    Just because I'm saving my life doesn't mean I don't care about my hearing. I already have a ringing in my ear from shooting a .22 pistol with no hearing protection. And while suppressors don't "silence" a gun blast, it'll bring it down enough that I won't suffer permanent damage if fired indoors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RKM View Post
    I'd like one for home defense on my USP. The only thing that concerns me is the portrayal of suppressors to a jury, and the fact that often when firearms are confiscated, a lot of the time, you never get it back. I'd hate to see a $1000 suppressor plus a near $1000 gun and $200 barrel go away and never come back. Sure, my life is worth more than $2200, but that would suck.

    Just because I'm saving my life doesn't mean I don't care about my hearing. I already have a ringing in my ear from shooting a .22 pistol with no hearing protection. And while suppressors don't "silence" a gun blast, it'll bring it down enough that I won't suffer permanent damage if fired indoors.
    I've never heard of a firearm used in a rightful self defense not being returned to the owner. Does anyone have any examples of this?
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    I don't know about using one for home defense, but for general hearing protection they're great. I run a Gemtech Outback II on both a Walther P22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 I built this past year. CCI CB longs seem to give me the best sound reduction and can still keep the rounds on target at reasonable distances. The can on the .22 pistol is definitely more quiet than on the Ruger 10/22. I suspect it's due to the bolt design on the rifle. Right now I cheat. I have a small length of 550 attached in such a fashion to the charging handle to keep the bolt closed after each shot when running subsonics with the can on.

    For those that claim the Hollywood sounds are not correctly representative of the sound levels achieved...I challenge you to find a local dealer and test fire one! My P22 is so quiet with the can on that my neighbor usually has no idea when i've been shooting all afternoon and he leaves his windows open all day long. And it is NOTICEABLY more quiet than his overpriced AIRGUN!
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    Thank you for post, many of you always come through, and makes this site a great find. I have had hearing related problems (slight pain / ringing) for around two years. God bless it is only slight. Plenty of doctors involved over that time. I can never been sure if it is partially firearm related. I've always taken hearing and eye protection seriously. Maybe shooting played a small part. Then again I should have been more concerned about the lawn mower and when hammering. Might all come down to a moment of lazy summer 2010 finishing up the lawn and some nails in a loose board may be the cause. Salt / diet is also a consideration.

    Long story short, as careful as I was, I am now far more careful, and sooner or later, some sort of suppressor has to be considered.
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