Here's a"stupid" question.

This is a discussion on Here's a"stupid" question. within the Home (And Away From Home) Defense Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Why do entry doors open in? They're too easy to kick in. If they opened out, BGs couldn't break in with a boot. And, if ...

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 32
Like Tree36Likes

Thread: Here's a"stupid" question.

  1. #1
    VIP Member Array oakchas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Iowa
    Posts
    7,060

    Here's a"stupid" question.

    Why do entry doors open in? They're too easy to kick in.

    If they opened out, BGs couldn't break in with a boot. And, if they pulled on it they might get the doorknob off, but that doesn't get them in.

    Storm/screen doors aren't really needed anymore with climate control, so I really don't understand any real reason why they "must" open inward.

    Thoughts?
    All that said....
    It could be worse.
    __________________________________________________
    "The History of our Revolution will be one continued Lye from one end to the other."
    John Adams

  2. Remove Ads

  3. #2
    Ex Member Array Ram Rod's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Fayetteville, AR
    Posts
    13,687
    You'll need to ask the engineers. They got paid big bucks to figure out how to construct your home. If you want things any other way, build it yourself.


    No really stupid questions here.

  4. #3
    Senior Member Array tubadude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    WV/PA
    Posts
    919
    If the door opened out, couldn't you just pop the hinges and pull the door open? That might be an oversimplification, but still....

  5. #4
    VIP Member Array tokerblue's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    CT
    Posts
    2,328
    I'm no engineer either.

    • In case of fire, the firefighters can kick the door down?
    • In areas with large amounts of snowfall, the door could be opened easily?
    • If there are stairs leading up to the door, the person wouldn't have to step back for the door to open?
    • Easier to prop the door open for moving things in the house?
    • When you open the door, you don't have to step outside?
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the outcome of the vote." ~ Benjamin Franklin

  6. #5
    Moderator
    Array Rock and Glock's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Colorado at 15,670'
    Posts
    12,119
    It is a question of hinges.

  7. #6
    Ex Member Array Ram Rod's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Fayetteville, AR
    Posts
    13,687
    Quote Originally Posted by Rock and Glock View Post
    It is a question of hinges.
    And engineering.....at least they'll have to work for it right? Be ready.

  8. #7
    Senior Member
    Array babarock's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Dacula, GA
    Posts
    576
    Quote Originally Posted by tubadude View Post
    If the door opened out, couldn't you just pop the hinges and pull the door open? That might be an oversimplification, but still....
    This is the answer I think on residential. On commercial property they open outward as a fire safety function. No reason why residential couldn't be engineered to work the other way (other than cost).
    GCO Member
    NRA Member
    NRA RSO & Certified Basic Pistol Instructor

  9. #8
    Ex Member Array barstoolguru's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    under a rock in area 51
    Posts
    2,548
    you would knock the Jehovah’s witnesses off the stoop when you answered the door too fast

  10. #9
    Member Array lordofwyr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Austin, Texas
    Posts
    306
    It is so I can hide behind the door when I see my daughter coming home from work, then wait for it.....waaaaaait for it..... and then reach from behind the door, grab her shoulder and scream.....and then watching her turn to into either a murderous she devil....or a quivering jello bowl.....and it is fricking hilarious ever single time!

    Uh, she doesn't pack heat yet. Once she gets her CCL I doubt I will try that any longer because I am severely allergic to lead and copper injections.......
    Fortune Favors the Bold!

  11. #10
    VIP Member Array oakchas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Iowa
    Posts
    7,060
    Hinges could be altered. But, that's one good reason. The only one I can come up with.
    All that said....
    It could be worse.
    __________________________________________________
    "The History of our Revolution will be one continued Lye from one end to the other."
    John Adams

  12. #11
    Senior Member Array TheShadow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Stuck In The 1970's
    Posts
    915
    When I built my garage I made the steel man door swing out, mainly so I could squeeze 5 or 6 cars in and still enter & exit easier. I took the mig and tacked the hinge pins so they couldn't be easily driven out. Now after I turned it into the man cave... It'd be nice to have it swinging the other way so I could enjoy looking out a storm door. I cant swing it in now even with a new door. The racedeck flooring system laid down is 1/2" thick and won't allow a standard door the clearance to swing. I'd have to cut into the header and sheetrock to gain clearance. If I just leave it open I'll be fightin the dad burn skeeters and biting gnats :(
    “Put your pain in a box. Lock it down. No man is stronger than one who can harness his emotions.” -Act of Valor

  13. #12
    Senior Member Array sdprof's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Near the Black Hills of SD
    Posts
    965
    And what about when UPS leaves that heavy package in front of your door?
    msgt/ret and nerdyvirgin like this.
    ~~~~~
    The only common sense gun legislation was written about 224 years ago.

    I carry always not because I go places trouble is likely, but because trouble has a habit of not staying in its assigned zone.

  14. #13
    Sponsor
    Array gatopardo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Oklahoma City
    Posts
    1,277
    I think I'd go for sliding doors, everywhere.
    Go with the glow

  15. #14
    Member Array TVille's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Alabama
    Posts
    173
    The reason is several fold. Man homes don't have room to open a door outwards if someone is standing there - the porch or stoop isn't big enough. Plus, since visitors knock, the door would be opened into them, not away from them. As mentioned, commercial doors open outwards for fire escape path. Also, most commercial doors are opened by the visitor, and they just walk in, so they get out of the way when they open it, and the stoop or entry area is designed to accomodate that. The hinges is not a big thing - you can my hinges with non-removable pins, or make them yourself, as Theshadow did.

    If you really want the door secure, insert pins into the door and frame on the hinge side. A pin in the door that goes into a hole in the frame. Many cheaper safes have this - pins that don't move. If the holes are a little over sized, they will fit. Do that and you can cut the hinges off and can't get the door out - it is locked on both sides.

  16. #15
    Member Array RevTracy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Colorado
    Posts
    129
    I'm surprised none of our Florida members haven't commented on this. In Florida it is common (the norm?) for a homes front door to open outward. I lived there for a year and was surprised to see this was the way all (or most) homes were built, at least in Southeast Florida where I lived. I was told it is done that way because of hurricanes and heavy storms.

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Search tags for this page

dade county hurricane code-can doors open inwards
,

exterior door swing in miami dade

,
how to tell if front door is miami dade approved
,

in miami are entry doors required to swing out

,

miami dade approved inward opening entry doors

,

miami dade code hurricane entry door opening out

,
miami dade commerical building code for entry doors
,

miami dade county codes doors how toopen

,
miami dade county entry door code
,
miami dade hurricane impact approved 30 fiberglass entry doors
,
retractable screen door shortening
,
wisconsin code for front entry doors
Click on a term to search for related topics.