Surprise When Arriving Home From Work

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    Surprise When Arriving Home From Work

    Kind of a long story, but I will be as brief as possible with the details. I really feel I dropped the ball on this though.

    I work for the County Assessor and drive a vehicle with them. I am not allowed to carry a firearm by WV state law while working.

    I take the vehicle home after work, but do not use it until going back to work. I park it next to my detached garage.

    This past Friday (4-13-12) I turn into the alley to park. I see a white late model Toyota Tacoma parked in my spot. I see a rather large man with what looks like a red hand held tool box in his hand. I keep our back gate padlocked and he was near it when I arrived.

    I guess I kind of startled him because he came back to the truck and put the box in the bed. He was pretty good sized, I'd say at least 250 lbs or better. He looked 60ish with long white hair and a huge bushy white beard.

    I pointed to him and motioned that I needed to park there, so he got into the truck and backed out, backing up the alley and stopped in front of my garage door and just sat there. I was feeling a bit nervous about this, we have recently had drug dealers busted in the apartment across the alley, but I backed my vehicle in to the spot, and got ready to exit. He then pulled up in front as I was beginning to exit.

    I was not feeling good, didn't have my pistol with me so I opened the door and stood there behind it and asked in a very matter-of-fact stern voice, "Can I help you?" He just looked at me and said "I'm here to pick up a dryer.....this is blah,blah,blah,blah Avenue isn't it?"

    I said, "No you are not picking up a dryer here. Who are you looking for, what's the name.?"

    "Carr" he said, while shuffling some papers sitting in the driver seat of his Toyota. I told him there was nobody by that name living here, and just said this is the (last name) residence. I told him he was mistaken and had the wrong place. So now he gets on a cell phone, mumbling something to the person on the other end about where the place was, yada yada.

    I shut my car door and went to the house, careful to lock the gate. Went in to let my dog out and grab my pistol from upstairs. I ran to the attic because it has full view of the alley below and I did not see the truck. When I went back out with the LCP and holster clipped to my belt and covered, he was gone.

    I'm really kicking myself in the tail for not getting a license number or asking him who he worked for or any of that. As others have posted similar stories, the surprise of finding someone like that made me go all stupid and lose all my situational awareness. I told my wife and the neighbour lady about this guy should he show up again. I checked the addresses around my neighbourhood and nobody with that last name resides close to me.

    The guy could have been legit, but my spidey sense told me otherwise. It's just creepy.
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    next time use your cell ph to get a pic of him and his lic plate
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    Well, you learned something from this experience. Glad it turned out OK.
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    Well if that had been me in the Toyota, and I was up to no good, when you appeared on the scene I woulda backed outta your parking space and left post haste. I would not have hung around making conversation giving you the opportunity to get a detailed description of me or the possible lic number of my truck. Repairmen and such do get lost on occasion when they're not that familiar with streets or alleys. Just saying. As in your case, best to be prepared though.
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    Yep taking a photo of the plates and him would have either provoked him or scared him off. Trust your gut...

    I assume you did not give the true last name of who lived there?

    Glad you contacted your neighbors as well.

    Probably a BG because of the use of a last name like "Car". Because, it was a name that he thought of due to seeing your "car" there. Most people that lie, look for something around them to help them with names... Seeing your car and worried that he was about to be caught red handed, probably made him think of the name "car"... just sayin...

    Time to install a camera aimed at the gate? Even a fake one is better than none...
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    Just thinking out loud, you typically don't need a toolbox to disconnect a dryer........unless it's a gas one? It would be tough to hand load a dryer in the back of a pickup alone. Did he have a dolly or lift gate?

    Even if it was a legitimate house call, it was a good impromptu exercise for you.
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    Why wouldn't he be at the FRONT door if he was picking something up?
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    3 x 5 cards and a pen in my car door pocket. I note time, date, license, description of every vehicle out of place on our isolated road/hollar or near my mother's house. Started when people selected our road to park and leave their car while they departed for what ever reason. Also call the non-emergency number and report abandoned vehicles. The word is out, people don't leave a vehicle parked down here anymore. Probably running around on the spouse.

    The neighborhood east of us has three widows, one divorcee, one deployed navy man's family, and a police officer's home on the street bordering our property. Two of the widows are distant cousins. I know the cars that should be at those places and note any that are out of place. I just keep the cards and trash them on general cleanup. It is just a habit and takes little thought or effort.

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    All very good advice, thank you. We have entertained the idea of surveillence cameras. But....(sarcasm on) we live in a good neighbourhood! Why would we need that? (sarcasm off)

    I have a sort of update. Talked to my other neighbour. He works for the Prison System in Kentucky so he can probably detect bad guys. I told him about the incident.

    He told me the same guy was on the side street adjacent to their home, they occupy the house on the corner of the street intersecting the avenue. He asked similar questions, told me the guy looked lost and confused. He also said the guy was red faced and thought maybe he was having a blood sugar diabetes type attack. The guy gave him the same story, only used a different address, the apartment building on the corner a block above us to the east.

    I told the neighbor they guy was parked in my area and used my address, so I still think he was not really a dryer repariman. At least we know what the guy looks like and his "story" so we can keep a lookout.
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    Go with your gut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    Why wouldn't he be at the FRONT door if he was picking something up?
    Yep! Never seen an alley with a street name or house numbers posted?

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    You know were you dropped the ball.Think of it as "practice" in case it happens again.
    Why?? Because at the last second, the Police are minutes away.

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    I'd leave the company car at work and commute armed.
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    Given your circumstances, I would put a secured "plant" handgun in the garage if that is your daily entry / exit location to your house.

    How many driveway ambushes coming & going have we all read about? This still isn't perfect, but since your work requires you to be unarmed when you're in your company vehicle, this allows you to get armed ASAP upon arrival.

    If this truly was a SHTF situation & your closest gun is upstairs in the bedroom, you're SOL in the driveway, not doing you much good there. This also gets you armed prior to entering your house in case you "surprise" any unexpected quests, and also keeps you armed in the a.m. to the last possible moment before getting into your car for work, making sure your garage, driveway & car are secure.

    Just my $.02
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    I'd leave the company car at work and commute armed.
    Unfortunately, not an option. It is a requirement that I use the County vehicle to do the work required. I would not be reimbursed for the expense and the County insurance would not cover me.

    Given your circumstances, I would put a secured "plant" handgun in the garage if that is your daily entry / exit location to your house.
    I have thought of that, but since the garage door is down, the gates are all locked, there would be little chance to acquire it rapidly. I got a multi-tool in my pocket but that's about it. I cannot be armed under West Virginia law because I work inside the Courthouse as well as out and firearms are prohibited. That extends to work vehicles as well. In order to do so would require a change in the law.

    The next time this happens I may not do a confrontation, but drive on past and call 911 to report a suspicious character in my drive.

    Thanks again for all the advice, it is extremely helpful.
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