Utah Law regarding alcohol at home.
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"Carry" means in public. Of ...
May 28th, 2012 08:34 PM
I'm going to need a designated shooter at home tonight, in case I'm charged with sleeping while under the influence.
"Carry" means in public. Of course, any BAC will be a speed bump for a homeowner defending himself, but shooting can be a sobering affair. I imagine quite a percentage of US residents have a little BAC in the evenings. May they not defend themselves in their own homes? You might want to talk with an attorney regarding consent to any search or sobriety testing within your home. The BG invading your house won't be asking if you've had anything to drink. The simple solution is to not drink just before you have to shoot.
Liberty, Property, or Death - Jonathan Gardner's powder horn inscription 1776
Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito.
("Do not give in to evil but proceed ever more boldly against it.")
-Virgil, Aeneid, vi, 95
May 28th, 2012 08:34 PM
May 28th, 2012 09:11 PM
My thinking is if you were to shoot someone most people would want a drink to settle their nerves afterwards.
When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
"Don't forget, incoming fire has the right of way."
May 28th, 2012 09:50 PM
I guess the easiest solution is just don't drink. For the life of me, I can't figure out why anyone would want to do that to themselves anyway.
May 28th, 2012 10:26 PM
I would read this to mean anywhere the person might be. Unless there is another law on the books there that lists exemptions I believe your friend is wrong.
Originally Posted by laguna0seca
May 29th, 2012 04:48 AM
Bringing this from another thread because it's on topic here...
Originally Posted by Lotus222
So lotus, I think you misunderstand Utah law. You are allowed to have alcohol in your system and be armed. You are not allowed to have more than the legal limit in your system, and the legal limit is the same as it is for DUI (0.08). So basically, you can drink, you can't be drunk. I like this law. I think drunk people shouldn't be carrying around guns, it simply is too dangerous to have people with impaired judgement making the split second decisions required to employ a self defense weapon. At the same time, the most I drink is a single drink. I might have a glass of wine with dinner when I go out. I also am always the designated driver when I go out with friends. I like that I can still go to the bar, have fun, save my friends from being tempted to drive drunk. I like that I don't have to disarm just because I might be around people drinking alcohol, or choose to have a single drink.
I also don't think you can definitively say that you can't be drunk in your own home and defend yourself... I'm not saying you can either. That's the whole reason this thread is here, to discuss this question. Since none of us are lawyers (at least not that we're admitting), and none of us seem to be aware of case law that is pertinent (at least none has been brought forth), the question is still up for debate. I suspect it is heavily predicated on how they define 'carrying'...
76-10-528. Carrying a dangerous weapon while under influence of alcohol or drugs unlawful.
(1) Any person who carries a dangerous weapon while under the influence of alcohol or a controlled substance as defined in Section 58-37-2 is guilty of a class B misdemeanor. Under the influence means the same level of influence or blood or breath alcohol concentration as provided in Subsections 41-6a-502(1)(a) through(c).
41-6a-502. Driving under the influence of alcohol, drugs, or a combination of both or with specified or unsafe blood alcohol concentration -- Reporting of convictions.
(1) A person may not operate or be in actual physical control of a vehicle within this state if the person:
(a) has sufficient alcohol in the person's body that a subsequent chemical test shows that the person has a blood or breath alcohol concentration of .08 grams or greater at the time of the test;
(b) is under the influence of alcohol, any drug, or the combined influence of alcohol and any drug to a degree that renders the person incapable of safely operating a vehicle; or
(c) has a blood or breath alcohol concentration of .08 grams or greater at the time of operation or actual physical control.
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