Responsibility to your neighborhood!
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June 14th, 2012 07:46 PM
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In Milwaukee the police would have questioned why you were so concerned? Are you worried they will cut in on your dealing?
The house would have been allowed to stay in operation. Those running it may have been warn to tone the street activity down a bit.
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June 14th, 2012 07:46 PM
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June 15th, 2012 11:26 AM
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Our neighborhood started a neighborhood watch and it worked for awhile. Once we got a new police chief, she cleaned-up the force and basically put our watch out of business. I mean that in a good way, as she forced her officers to be officers and that no law breaker was 'above the law'.
What also helped was the city reducing its city limits, but not reducing the number of officers on the force.
The only bad thing is that the membership in the neighborhood watch has dwindled down to just a handful.
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June 15th, 2012 12:51 PM
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I am not going to judge anyone for the decisions they make when it comes to their neighborhood. You do what you think you need to do. I am just getting a little tired of this "sheepdog" thing.
My job in self defense is to take responsibility for myself and my own "little flock". I don't ignore what happens in my neighborhood. I would call 911 if I saw anyone harassing the old girls that take a daily walk around the block. I would help any neighborhood child in distress. I would assist with finding or treating any pet that is in distress. I know where the questionable people live and keep a watchful eye on the neighbor's for any "unusual" activity (ie. break ins). This is about where it ends.
I am not a "sheepdog". I expect nothing from my neighbors and accept no responsibility for their protection or well being. So far I have not been disappointed.
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June 28th, 2012 11:20 AM
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Here is the latest update.
Over the last two weeks the dealer has been in and out of the house. I had thought he moved out but he did not. After my original post it appeared the drug traffic came to an abrupt halt. The dealer would sneak in and out once in a while. Local police informed me the dealer had multiple warrants. Strangely, multiple people were moving items in and out of the house. I had heard from a neighbor that he had finally been arrested. On this past Saturday night we saw an individual loading up a car and truck with even more stuff from this house. Shortly after, about half an hour the dealer shows up and has a domestic with the female who had just arrived as well. The dealer made a quick break and we didn't know why until the Bellevue Police showed up Just missing him again. The police pulled out some evidence bags and started going through his garbage. Last night another different individual went back inside the drug house and removed even more property. I called the police to report the vehicle, plate number and possible burglary.
I hope this is the end, it appears vacant now and I haven't seen the female in several days. The house may be too hot for their activity.
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June 28th, 2012 01:27 PM
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Hmmmm.....lets not try to play sheriff woody now. I do commend you for calling the police...but to publicly call your neighbor a drug dealer...wether they are or not....is just asking for it. You should have stopped with the call to the police and let them do their job.
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June 28th, 2012 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Hmmmm.....lets not try to play sheriff woody now. I do commend you for calling the police...but to publicly call your neighbor a drug dealer...wether they are or not....is just asking for it. You should have stopped with the call to the police and let them do their job.
Yeah well, I didn't!
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June 28th, 2012 03:10 PM
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Been reading this thread and I understand what you're seeing. I've noticed the same thing happening to parts of our city.In this area it appears that LEO does nothing about anything unless they get something out of it. After a burglary in my home several years ago,fingerprints were taken and when it was proven by me that the culprit was who I said it was, the detectives backed up and said "that's a bad family and we're better off just letting them move out of our city than dealing with them." This was after I alerted them that they were preparing to leave and the detectives confirmed that with their landlord.
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June 28th, 2012 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Been reading this thread and I understand what you're seeing. I've noticed the same thing happening to parts of our city.In this area it appears that LEO does nothing about anything unless they get something out of it. After a burglary in my home several years ago,fingerprints were taken and when it was proven by me that the culprit was who I said it was, the detectives backed up and said "that's a bad family and we're better off just letting them move out of our city than dealing with them." This was after I alerted them that they were preparing to leave and the detectives confirmed that with their landlord.
First time I've ever heard of LEO's afraid to arrest BG's. This does not speak well for the LEO community in Northern KY.
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June 28th, 2012 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by
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First time I've ever heard of LEO's afraid to arrest BG's. This does not speak well for the LEO community in Northern KY.
Yes, something's wrong with the state of law enforcement in this country when the BG's have the upper hand.
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June 28th, 2012 03:38 PM
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Each person makes his own decision about their responsibility to their neighborhood and community. Several of the men on my block are friends and watch what is going on. The key is to know your neighbors. Concealed carry or even gun ownership has no bearing on an individuals responsibility to defend his own home or help a neighbor defend his home. It affects how you defend, but not the decision to do so. I find it admirable that the OP took action to remove a valid threat to the neighborhood. I find it disappointing that the neighbors were sheep. I have 4 other men on my block that will cover my back and I will do the same for them. It helps if the neighbors have been veterans who have had an opportunity to live the duty and honor life. That said, we should all be ready to be disappointed in our fellow man from time to time. We in turn, will disappoint others. We are weak, and fallible after all.
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June 28th, 2012 05:38 PM
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I notified them of this house months ago and they blew me off.
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June 29th, 2012 09:44 AM
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Bellvue/Dayton has the highest heroin use in the northern part of the state. The police are overloaded with drug calls. The other day the local ED treated 8 oversoses on the day shift alone. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, the local LEO's may have an onfoing investigation underway and do not want to tip their hand. Just yesterday in a neighboring town (Covington) they had a major drug bust sweep with 70 wanted and 36 caught in one day.
I'd rather be lucky than good any day
There's nothing that will change someone's moral outlook quicker than cash in large sums.
Majority rule only works if you're also considering individual rights. Because you can't have five wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for supper.
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June 29th, 2012 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by
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Bellvue/Dayton has the highest heroin use in the northern part of the state. The police are overloaded with drug calls. The other day the local ED treated 8 oversoses on the day shift alone. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, the local LEO's may have an onfoing investigation underway and do not want to tip their hand. Just yesterday in a neighboring town (Covington) they had a major drug bust sweep with 70 wanted and 36 caught in one day.
I have been listening to the police scanner for the last week at night. I don't get Newport or Covington unless someone is requesting help or a canine unit. It was busy last night.
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June 29th, 2012 10:55 AM
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Just be careful is all i'll say. and stay alert and armed :)
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June 29th, 2012 11:05 PM
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40 years in the getto and still kicking. Rule (1) Mind you own business....hell with neighboors and the hood. (2) CYA and defend yourself and family. To hell with the community. The community is most likely the reason why things went to hell. By the way...I live in Milwaukee, WI. Not as bad a detroit, chicago or new york but haven to the scum that came from down south to collect welfare which is a premium here for free loaders....nuff said.....
That fool in florida did what he felt right for his community..and look what happened to the good samaritan.
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